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Obama Allies: Bill Ayers and the Weather Underground

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I think it’s about time we take a look at some of Obama’s friends.

The Weather Underground was  a communist group that engaged in bombings in the early 70’s.  Their goal was to take over the government by force, and install a communist dictatorship.  Among the leadership of that group was Obama associate, William Ayers.  Here is part of a video interview with Larry Grathwohl, who infiltrated the Weather Underground. 


Pajamas Media  interviewed Grathwohl in October of 2008.

Pajamas Media: You stated in your interview in No Place to Hide that you wanted us to “imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.” A lot of people have now had the opportunity to listen to you, and contemplate the horrors these people planned. Can you recall who these people are by name, and who the ringleaders of this plan were?

Larry Grathwohl: Conversations regarding this occurred in Cincinnati, Detroit, Flint, and Buffalo. Participants included Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Mark Rudd, Linda Evans, Jeff Jones, and many others.

Pajamas Media: Was this merely an academic matter to them, or were they serious about killing 25 million Americans that would not bend to their political will?

Larry Grathwohl: I suppose you could consider this a purely academic discussion in that the Weathermen never had the opportunity to implement their political ends. However, I can assure you that this was not the case. There was an absolute belief that they, along with the international revolutionary movement, would cause the collapse of the United States and that they would be in charge. Nixon was of great concern and how his end would be conducted. This may sound absurd in today’s context, but the Weatherman believed they would succeed.

Pajamas Media: Did they ever devise a cover story to explain to the rest of America how roughly one in ten disappeared?

Larry Grathwohl: When I suggested that this might be a difficult proposition they looked at me like I had three heads. They would be in charge! They would be in control! Who would oppose them? Lambs to the slaughter I guess.

Pajamas Media: Were any of those Weathermen involved in concocting this plan particularly excited or enthusiastic about the death camps, or was it merely a means to an end?

Larry Grathwohl: Of course they were enthusiastic as it was representative of the success of “the revolution.”

Pajamas Media: Scattered news accounts on the Internet note that you were instrumental in foiling Weather Underground attacks in February  of 1970, in Detroit. The Weathermen built two bombs targeting the Detroit Police Officers’ Association (DPOA) building and the 13th Precinct. Were the goals of these attacks symbolic property damage as were some other Weathermen attacks, or were these targets selected to kill police officers?

Larry Grathwohl: The instructions I received from Billy Ayers was that the bombs to be used in Detroit must have shrapnel (fence staples, specifically) and fire potential (propane bottles). The intention was to kill police officers.

Pajamas Media: One of the Detroit bombs was to be placed on the side of the DPOA building, and the blast was likely to cause damage to the adjacent Red Barn Restaurant, which had mostly African-American customers. Who ordered the attack, and what did he say when you told him that innocent civilians would be killed?

Larry Grathwohl: When I objected to Billy Ayers that more innocent people would be killed in the restaurant, he replied, “Innocent people have to die in a revolution.” Billy also acknowledged during a criticism session in Buffalo that Bernadine placed the bomb at the Park Police Station which resulted in the death of Police Officer McDonnell.

Pajamas Media: Bill Ayers came out of hiding around 1980, became an college professor, and has served on numerous boards and foundations. Do you think he’s changed in his radicalism?

Larry Grathwohl: Has Billy changed? I hardly think so.

Pajamas Media: If conditions permitted, do you think Ayers would still engage in violence to further a political agenda?

Larry Grathwohl: He has acknowledged his support of anti-American groups and stated he felt that the Weathermen hadn’t done enough.

Pajamas Media: Do you consider Bill Ayers an attempted mass murderer?

Larry Grathwohl: I’m not certain Billy is a mass murder; his ego just wants him to be in charge. Note that Billy never does anything that involves risk. He has no problem allowing his women to do the evil task, Diane Oughton and even Bernardine, but never him. As for what he might do, hasn’t he said he doesn’t rule out the possibility of future bombings? [Ayers said he didn't "want to discount the possibility" in this New York Times article from  September 11, 2001. -- Ed.]

Pajamas Media: Would you let your children attend a college or university class taught by Ayers or his wife, Bernadine Dohrn? What would you tell parents who have had their children exposed to Ayers’ academic programs, like the Small Schools Workshop?

Larry Grathwohl: As for Billy’s ideas on education, isn’t it apparent? Reading, writing, and arithmetic aren’t important! Radicalism is what’s important. Fits right in with the Billy Ayers view of creating mindless soldiers to follow his commands — where best to lay the foundations of a revolution than with the young?

Pajamas Media: Do you think there is there any way that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama could not have known that Bill Ayers was a domestic terrorist? Is there any reason that the American people should accept Barack Obama’s newest excuse about his relationship with Bill Ayers, where Obama claimed that he thought Ayers was “reformed”?

Larry Grathwohl: If we are to believe Mr. Obama, he just didn’t know Billy was as radical as he apparently is. Really? Just like he didn’t know the Rev. Wright was as radical as he is? Obama is a politician and he wants me to believe that he never discussed politics with the Rev Wright or Billy Ayers?

So then, it’s pretty obvious that Ayers was a genocidal maniac.  He was more than willing, enthusiastic, in fact, to go where socialism always arrives-mass murder.   A totalitarian system can not allow dissent.  It cannot allow free speech.  It cannot allow freedom. Instead, the socialist state must silence, and if necessary, kill anyone who gets in the way.   It has happened before, the Soviet Union, China, Vietnam, and Cambodia are all morbid examples of the end result of Socialism/Communism.

Notice that the only violence in our current system comes from the left?  Union thugs try to intimidate or beat down people that oppose them.  Anarchists destroy property and assault police.  ACORN is bused in to occupy banks and businesses.  We’ve covered it extensively.  Just imagine what would happen if people like Ayers got close to achieving their goals.  In a sense, is it safe to assume that we are all ready in a low-intensity communist revolution?

Another interesting aspect of the interviews and articles that I have read is that Ayers was all about the planning and rhetoric, yet he didn’t seem to want to get his own hands dirty.  This supports the theory that many would-be “revolutionaries” are perpetually petulant children that want everything their way, but will cry like babies (or throw a tantrum) if the don’t get what they want.  However, Ayers didn’t seem to have a shortage of useful idiots that would carry out his ideas.  That makes him, and others like him, dangerous.

In the end, we need to watch these individuals and groups, expose them, and prepare to meet them.  If we do not, they will meet us, and the element of surprise will be tragic.

Charming guy, standing on the flag, isn’t he?

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  • http://easternright.com Karen Howes

    I think you nailed it with the low-intensity Communist revolution, Matt. That’s exactly what we’re facing.

    • http://conservativehideout.com Matt

      I really wish I were wrong, but how long before this low level violence and intimidation turns into murder?

  • http://forgottenliberty.com Forgotten Liberty

    Radical lefties like Ayers are all to happy to use force to get things done. They claim to be enlightened thinkers but when it comes down to it, they would rather use armed thugs to get their way then have a rational debate and a free exchange of ideas. Scary stuff but I agree with you, we need to expose and challenge these people who want to destroy our freedom and our country.

    • http://conservativehideout.com Matt

      The “claim” to be enlightened thinkers is the key. They wrap their old fashioned tyranny with “progressive” rhetoric. But, as you point out, they use the same jack booted techniques that every tyrant has had in his arsenal since time began.

  • http://americaswatchtower.com Steve Dennis

    YOU RACIST! Don’t you know that you are not supposed to discuss the people the Barack Obama CHOSE to hang around?
    Seriously though, every time I think about the people that Barack Obama hung around with and how the American people did not care, and how those of us who did were branded racists for even questioning him it make me so angry! We tried to warn everyone and we were laughed at and marginalized, but we were right and people are beginning to realize it.

    • http://conservativehideout.com Matt

      Hell Steve, I could have written an ode to “duckies and bunnies,” and I’d still be a racist. The narrative is that flexible.

      I think that everyone was so tired of Bush, that anyone that the Dems ran would have run. They just ignored what everyone had to say about Obama during the campaign. Now, since all of his promises have been ignored, and he’s lied about nearly everything, folks are starting to take a second look. Then, the inaction with the oil spill just seals the deal.

  • http://www.trestinmeacham.info/ Trestin Meacham

    Good one Matt. I’m going to post this on Marxist is poison.

  • http://fuzislippers.blogspot.com/ Fuzzy

    Excellent post, Matt. We need to know and tell others all of this. It’s not an accident that The Weather Underground planned on, planned on (!), “having” to exterminate millions of people who were died-in-the-wool capitalists. Not an accident at all. And anyone who doesn’t think these thought have crossed the minds of the traitorous horde in this admin is kidding themselves.

    • http://conservativehideout.com Matt

      Thanks Fuzzy. There are far too many to go with co-incidence. My biggest question is this: Do they still plan on offing about 10% of the population?

  • http://www.womanhonorthyself.com/ Angel

    spot on Matt..but no one seems to mind! HAPPY DADDYS DAY !!..hugss..Angel:)

  • http://mksviews.wordpress.com/ MK

    I don’t think many members of the voting public even know about the links between obama and scum like this, the msm wouldn’t publish many of it and to be honest i don’t think the public would have been put off by it back then.

    The political and economic climate has changed since then, and i think now small but important facts revealing much about obamas character will have an impact on the voters out there.

    Keep banging the drum folks, it’s not just one issue that can stop someone like obama but many issues.

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