Post Vice Presidential Debate Wrap-up: Biden’s Grins, Ryan’s Math

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I have to admit that writing about the debates is sometime’s difficult.  For one, I already know the facts, so I don’t need convincing of anything.  Secondly, the debates are not meant to convert Obama voters to Romney voters or vice-versa.  The base of each party already know what they are doing on election day.  So then, the debate needs to be framed from the perspective that independents or undecided voters need to be swayed.  There are still a lot of people that rely on the MSM for news, so this might be the first time that people have heard of Ryan, other than that he’s evil and wants to kill off the elderly.  So, here is my take on the issues…

Topic:  Libya.  Ryan scored on this, as Biden couldn’t continue the narrative, as it was disproved.  Do many people care about Libya”  I don’t know.  But they might care that the administration lied about it, and denied requests for additional security.  Biden’s defense seemed awkward, and it would have to be.  Even the great liar in chief, Bill Clinton, would have had a hard time spinning that one.

Topic:  Jobs and Economy.  I’d give this one to Ryan as well.  While Biden grinned dismissively, and tried to be smug, it isn’t easy to defend their record.  In my book, Ryan scored points on repeating unemployment numbers, how it’s gotten worse, and that so many are in poverty.

Topic:  Debt.  This is a mixed bag.  Yes there is a debt crisis coming, perhaps sooner than later.  The question is, how many undecided voters care about that issue.  As they saying goes, all politics are local, and you can’t get more local than your kitchen table.  That defers to unemployment and poverty, and that should go to Ryan.

All in all, knowing the issues, I think Ryan won.  But, the debate is really all about convincing the previously unconvinced, so did they go to Ryan’s fact based presentation, or was Biden’s more emotional, yet inaccurate portrayal the best sell?

For some other interpretations…

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Hot Air:

I expected “table-pounding atmospherics” from Biden but I didn’t expect him to act like a total jackhole for fully 90 minutes. Give him credit for knowing his target audience, though: His task tonight was to get the left excited again after Obama fell into a semi-coma in Denver, and evincing utter disdain for Ryan — grimacing, shouting, laughing inappropriately, constantly interrupting, the total jackhole experience — is just what the doctor ordered. He might have irritated independents and undecideds, but probably not so much that it’ll change people’s votes. The Democrats needed someone to go out there and clown for liberals, and if there’s one thing this guy knows, it’s clowning.

PAUL RYAN SCORES CRUSHING VICTORY OVER BIDEN IN DEBATE

Stacey apparently has abandoned all understatement there…

MEDIA HITS BIDEN: ‘STOP SMIRKING!’ ‘WEIRD,’ ‘JERK’

Well, that’s a brief roundup.  Feel free to drop a comment.

 

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  • Don

    I would’ve liked to have seen Ryan be a bit more forceful, but he basically had 2 opponents and he’s too much of a nice guy. As our next Veep, Paul Ryan won’t be cast in the role as attack dog a la Dick Cheney; instead he’ll be the reliable policy wonk who is well versed in the numbers that Romney will need to efficiently attack our debt.

  • Biden was a total jerk. In other words, the complete Democratic experience.

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  • Biden did what the Democrats needed him to do; fire up their base. Biden did a good job with his class.warfare demagoguery. There are plenty of fools out there that will buy into it.

  • That Skeletor bitch made the whole thing unwatchable.