#FreeKate Update: Stalkers Refuse to Stop Stalking

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As I have mentioned more times than I can count, I would really love the #FreeKate story to go away.  It’s become like a mosquito, buzzing in my ear, and I’m apparently all out of Off.   But, the #FreeKate supporters, like Thomas Mix, and @NicoleBonnet1, simply will not stop harassing those that have exposed the truth about the Kaitlyn Hunt.   I’m guessing that part of their effort to legalize sex between adults and minors is to punish and silence anyone who chooses to protect young teens from adults.  And, as we have seen in their persecution of Jeanette Runyon, what they cannot find, they will invent.

It was two days prior to Christmas, or Christmas Eve (at this point, I frankly forget), when Jeanette and I decided to stop making any public posts about Kaitlyn Hunt and the stalking #FreeKate supporters.  We wanted to see their reaction to silence.  The result was an impressive escalation of insults, stalking, and hate.  Just like the school-yard bully, the #FreeKate stalkers, when met with a target that refused to play along, decided to turn up the heat in order to regain their sense of control over the situation.

The Other McCain has screenshots and examples, so head over there to see more.

I have four basic points; the first is that these are typical bully tactics, and since bullies are cowards, they are claiming to be calling the FBI and having Child Protective Services investigate critics of Kaitlyn Hunt.  These are typical bully tactics, and should be noted as such.  Bullies attack and attack, and when exposed, claim to be the victim.  Then, they use their claimed victimhood as a justification to engage in even more attacks. After all, as Robert Stacy McCain has so aptly put;

“How dare you describe our efforts to intimidate you into silence!”

This has been a consistent theme.  Quoting them is hateful stalking worthy of a Nuremberg type trial.  However, doxing people, making false police reports, and generally harassing people is perfectly OK, and long as they are doing it. However, the #FreeKate stalkers should be advised that knowingly making false reports to these agencies, particularly the FBI, is illegal, and very ill advised.

My second point is that we are dealing with evil people, and evil people cheat.  These are people that want to make it legal for adults to have sex with minors (under the euphemism of an “exception”). Given that fact, ethical or moral behavior cannot be expected.  They have openly and willfully lied about Jeanette Runyon’s past.  They have openly plotted to use false reports to get Jeanette banned from Twitter, and have attempted the same on Facebook.  They have pretended to stalk her husband (who is a disabled veteran), her church, and community.  Essentially, they have no depths to which they will not go to smear and punish those that have thwarted their efforts to legalize adult minor sex, and have exposed their lies.

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And for the third point, I’ll quote Robert Stacy McCain…

Evil never sleeps. Evil is active, shameless and persistent. The assault on virtue and truth continues every minute of every day, and anyone who fails to speak out against evil is thereby an accomplice.

Nothing should alarm the decent law-abiding citizen more than when the advocates of deviant criminality endeavor to silence the voices of their critics, as has happened recently in the case of “Free Kate” freaks getting @Jeanette_Runyon’s Twitter account suspended.

Do not be deceived: There is no safety in timid silence, because once these immoral monsters have silenced the strong and the brave, who will have courage to defend the timid and weak?

That is true.  There are no victims here, only combatants.  We are making a stand for the truth, and protecting children from those that molest them, as well as those that would legally facilitate that molestation.  No amount of lies, threats, fake reports, and stalking will prevent the truth from being told.

And for the fourth; the #FreeKate stalkers claim that we are “obsessed.”  Obsessed with the case, obsessed with them.   Because, apparently, we have nothing better to do with our lives.  But, they took the time (at least by their own claims) to track down people’s identities and locations, in order to (pretend or otherwise) file false claims and reports about us?  And, they did that while we were posting about other things, spending time with our families, and volunteering at our churches.  You know, because we are obsessed!

And once again, Kaitlyn Hunt is being discussed.  Sadly, she is only being discussed because her supporters refuse to stop lying and stalking people.  They are keeping the story going, and then complain when they bring more and more attention to themselves.  If only they would stop; they could move on with their lives.

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Brief #FreeKate Update: Support Honesty Site Updated

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Just a quick note to those of you that are following the #FreeKate story, the site, Support Honesty had a major site update earlier this week.  The owner updated the site with the latest information, including the full conversation in which Kaitlyn Hunt was warned by a member of the Smith family to end the relationship, and in which she acknowledged that the relationship was illegal.  Also in the update is the full supplemental report from Detective Jeremy Shepherd, in which there was no mention of anti-gay bias. 

Support Honesty remains the single best repository of actual facts about the #FreeKate criminal case.  The owner has offered to the Hunts and their legal team the ability  to submit any real evidence that disproves anything on that site.  Actual evidence would then be added to the site.    As of the time of this writing, no contradictory evidence has been offered.

In all honesty, I’d really like this to be the last #FreeKate post.  The only thing that will bring more are actual legal developments in the case, or if the supporters continue to harass truth tellers.

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#FreeKate Update: Social Justice Advocate Calls for Federal Charges, Supporters Get FOIA, and Are Strangely Silent

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I had not planned on another #FreeKate post so soon, but there have been two developments to note.  The first is unexpected.  I received an email regarding a letter written to the Attorney General for the Southern District of Florida, Wifredo A. Ferrer, asking that a federal investigation be started into the crimes of Kaitlyn Hunt.  Here is more…

Request for Federal Investigation in Kaitlyn Hunt Case Filed with United States Attorney for Southern Florida.

Honorable Wifredo A. Ferrer Asked to Review Evidence for Violation of Federal Law Regarding Transfer of Obscene Material to Minors.

Contact: Bill Simpson, 301-339-3338, ProtectChildrenFromPredators@Gmail.Com

MIAMI, Dec. 17, 2013 /Christian Newswire/ — A letter requesting the US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida to review the evidence in the State of Florida vs Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt (Case No. 31-2013-CF-000197-A) has been filed asking for an independent, thorough and transparent investigation into a series of presumptive federal sex crimes committed against a 14 year old female Florida resident residing in Indian River County.

Kaitlyn Hunt pleaded no contest to a series of five charges resulting from a sexual relationship she had with a minor child. The plea agreement included two felonies of interference with child custody (F.S. 787.03), two counts misdemeanor battery (F.S. 784.03(1)(B)), and misdemeanor contributing to the dependency of a child (F.S. 827.04(1)).

The child victim was illegally contacted thousands of times by the defendant, Ms. Hunt, even after two separate no contact orders had been filed with the court as condition of her release from custody. This contact was made in person, through third parties, and electronically through the use of an iPod and an application called FaceTime.

“The victim in this case was sexually violated multiple times by the defendant, and those violations continued for months, long after the initial arrest of Kaitlyn Hunt,” stated social justice activist, Bill Simpson.

“It is every parent’s worst nightmare their child would be groomed by an adult for an illegal sexual relationship, not to mention the first encounter occurred in a stall in the girl’s bathroom at a public school. We should not have to worry each day when we drop our children off at school whether or not they will be sexually assaulted in a bathroom during the course of the school day,” continued Mr. Simpson.

Here is the full text of Mr. Simpson’s letter…

 

US Attorney Ferrer Letter 12-17-13 Regarding Kaitlyn Hunt by Bill Simpson


Concerned individuals might want to contact the AG, and let him know that you support this.

In the second development, two #FreeKate supporters, Thomas Mix, and Rachel Carson Zerbe, obtained the same FOIA information that we had received last month.  They claimed that they were going to show how we, “cherry picked” the information to make Kaitlyn Hunt and crew look bad.  Tonight, they are silent.  After some rather poor attempts at lying, they claimed victim-hood, and stopped posting.

Funny thing; they couldn’t post a single, solitary, anything that contradicted the data in these posts…

#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family Claims Anti-gay Bias, Police Investigation Finds None-Kelley Hunt Smith Engages in it?

#FreeKate Update: Victim Tried to Break Off Relationship, Kaitlyn Hunt ‘Wouldn’t Let Her,’ Described to Have ‘Problem With Lying’

#FreeKate Update: New Information Proves that Kaitlyn Hunt Knew That Her Relationship was Illegal, and That She Was Warned to End it

In fact, they refused to post a single thing that would contradict these posts.  Frankly, they couldn’t.  They had the exact same thing that I had posted, so it could not have been contradicted.  Of course, they aren’t concerned with the truth.  They are only concerned with their hate for people that expose their lies, not to mention making it legal for adults to have sex with minors.

I’m sure that they’ll be back with a new twist on their typical lying and bullying tactics.

And, we’ll be here to cover it.  Exposing bullying tactics to the world helps limit their effectiveness.  What they’ve done to the Smiths, the blaming of the victim, the stalking (pretend or otherwise) against people that oppose their efforts to lie; all needs to be seen, discussed, and countered.  If not, more and more sexual abuse victims, their families, and supporters, will be victimized.

Let this be the case where decent people stood up to the bullies, and made the country safer for children.

Note:  The Conservative Hideout and it’s contributors do not recommend contacting any #FreeKate supporters.  I condemn any attempt to harass, “dox,” or otherwise harm another human being.  We deal in truth here, we’ll leave the lies and harassment to the #FreeKate supporters.  That will not, however, prevent us from exposing their lies and bully tactics.

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The Strange Case of the Pretend #Freekate Stalkers

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Alleged Sex Offender Kaitlyn Hunt in Court

It’s been really interesting to observe the #FreeKate supporters that are stalking Jeanette Runyon.  They have been ruthlessly using false reports in getting her banned from Twitter multiple times, yet they continue to do to Jeanette what they claim she does to them.  I covered this a couple months ago.

Here is the most interesting section…

c) Feigning victimhood: in the unlikely event of denial and counter-attack being insufficient, the bully feigns victimhood or feigns persecution by manipulating people through their emotions, especially guilt. This commonly takes the form of bursting into tears, which most people cannot handle.

Variations include indulgent self-pity, feigning indignation, pretending to be “devastated”, claiming they’re the one being bullied or harassed, claiming to be “deeply offended”, melodrama, martyrdom (“If it wasn’t for me…”) and a poor-me drama (“You don’t know how hard it is for me … blah blah blah …” and “I’m the one who always has to…”, “You think you’re having a hard time …”, “I’m the one being bullied…”).

Other tactics include manipulating people’s perceptions to portray themselves as the injured party and the target as the villain of the piece. Or presenting as a false victim. Sometimes the bully will suddenly claim to be suffering “stress” and go off on long-term sick leave, although no-one can quite establish why. Alleged ill-health can also be a useful vehicle for gaining attention and sympathy.

You see, #FreeKate supporters have lied about the case-from day one.  When they were caught lying about almost every aspect of the case, and exposed in their open efforts to legalize sex between adults and minors, they went on to attack the people stating the truth.  Then, when the people stating the truth were not silenced, and exposed the “katers” attempts to silence them, the #FreeKate supporters switched gears again, claiming to be victims themselves.

The Other McCain summarized their reaction well…

How dare you describe my attempts to intimidate you into silence!

And, as we covered back in November, the #FreeKate stalkers are still busy making sure that Jeanette is never allowed to quote them on Twitter again…

gloating over their lies being effective

This is NOT stalking, right?

So, as you can see, they are the tolerant victims of Jeanette’s “hate,” right?

Here is some background…

@JanaEschbach Interviews Smith Family Regarding #FreeKate Revelations, Supporters Still Trying Silence Truth Tellers

#FreeKate Supporters Continue to Lie in Order to Ban Those That Expose Them, Display Anti-Christian Hatred

#FreeKate Update: Supporters Lie to Censor Those That Quote Them-Shutuppery in Action!

In other words, they really don’t want anyone spreading facts about Kaitlyn hunt and the #FreeKate supporters out there.

So, here’s where it get’s curious.  @NicoleBonnet1, a #FreeKate supporter, started to claim that she had gone to Jeanette’s home state to “have people monitor her…”

nicole lie 1nicole lie 1This is NOT stalking, right?

stalking jeanettes congreationThis is NOT stalking, right?

 

nicole lie 4

 

This is NOT stalking, right?

Now, as you can see, she’s stating that she went to North Carolina, and actually met with people that know Jeanette.  However, there is one problem with that…

No one in North Carolina seems to remember meeting her, or him, or whatever she claims to be.

(1) Ondrea Tye_s stalking - Jeanette Victoria Runyon - 2013-11-21_22.19.51Jeanette Victoria Runyon - 2013-11-18_03.32.23

priest calls nicole liarSo then, no one in her church or community has heard of anything that @NicoleBonnet1 has posted.  When the local PD was approached about “monitoring,” or even having heard of this, they laughed.  It’s also interesting to point out that @NicoleBonnet1‘s typo, “applaud,” seems to be the most true thing in any of these screencaps.  The people that have responded are most favorable of Jeanette.

But, they weren’t done there, Jeanette’s husband, a disabled veteran, was also targeted…

tracking hubbyOh, and by the way, no one seems to have received these mythical DVD’s either…

katie harassing hubAccording to Jeanette, her husband was never arrested. 

And, not only have they gone after Jeanette, for exposing their lies, and support for legalizing adult-minor sex, they even went after Jana Eschbach, a reporter for CBS 12 that interviewed the Smiths, and had obtained the same information that we had in our FOIA.

Jana Eschbach (JanaEschbach) on Twitter - 2013-11-27_23.11.11Twitter _ Truebie2013_ @JanaEschbach Maybe they want ... - 2013-12-01_10.11.09Half truths, like Kaitlyn Hunt’s own words?

Thomas (Periabo) on Twitter - 2013-12-16_12.25.35Actually, Thomas Mix is lying. I never communicated with Ms. Eschbach until after her report.  She simply obtained the same legal information that we did.  You know, when one person gets the information from a legal source, and another person get’s the the same information from the same legal source, they will say the exact same thing?  But, we can’t expect Thomas Mix to tell the truth, can we?

In other words, @NicoleBonnet1 is a liar.  And, the other @FreeKate supporters like Thomas Mix, Rachael Carson Zerbe, and others are already confirmed liars, or very foolish for believing @NicoleBonnet1.  But, then again, since they have lied about the case of Kaitlyn Hunt, and openly have the desire to make adult-minor sex legal and safe for sex offenders, I guess you can’t expect too much in terms of moral or ethical behavior.

Thomas Mix has an odd sense of “victory.”

mix reaction to being pointed out.Mr. Mix, there is no meltdown.  We’re not only calm, we’re laughing.  We’re just systematically pointing out to the world that you, and your associates, are liars.  The entire planet is now aware of that.  The internet is forever. All the lies, and the stalking, pretend or otherwise, cannot change that.

Remember this, Thomas Mix, regarding the false claim that Jeanette was a convicted felon?

they don't care if its true

“She must think I care if it’s true or not.”

Yeah, you’re the trusted source of information now, aren’t you Thomas Mix?  You haven’t cared about anything being true or not, have you?

So then, what’s the point of all of this?  There are several.

1.  The #FreeKate supporters, in their efforts to engage in shutuppery, are only drawing more attention to themselves.  They are blissfully unaware of the Streisand Effect.

2.  Since they are engaging in standard liberal intimidation tactics, a Conservative blogger is almost obligated to point it out.  The more these tactics are exposed, the less effective they are.

3.  Since we have exposed Kaitlyn Hunt as a liar, and Kelley Hunt Smith for opposing homosexuality before she was for it, and that Detective Shepherd found no anti-gay bias in his investigation, and that Kaitlyn Hunt used threats to control her victim, the #FreeKate supporters have to smear the woman that filled out the paperwork .  In other words, it’s a rousing game of Accuse the Accusers.  They can’t counter, or disprove a single fact that was included in the FOIA the we acquired regarding Kaitlyn Hunt.  So, they have to lie.  And guess what? They are going to continue lying-because that is what liars do.

4.  They are really poor liars.  And for IRL stalking, they failed miserably.

In the end, the only reason that I’m still covering this story is that the supporters keep lying and stalking people.  Or pretending to stalk people, or something like that.  Their lies and actions are keeping this story alive.  They make themselves newsworthy by harassing others, but then complain when that is pointed out.

And, we’ll be right here to continue displaying it for the world to see.

Oh, and how’s that bullying working out for you?

Note:  The Conservative Hideout and it’s contributors do not recommend contacting any of these people.  I condemn any attempt to harass, “dox,” or otherwise harm another human being.  We deal in truth here, we’ll leave the lies and harassment to the #FreeKate supporters.  That will not, however, prevent us from exposing their lies and bully tactics. 

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@JanaEschbach Interviews Smith Family Regarding #FreeKate Revelations, Supporters Still Trying Silence Truth Tellers

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Alleged Sex Offender Kaitlyn Hunt in Court

Jana Eschbach, reporter from CBS12, interviewed the Smith family regarding the new #FreeKate information that has been revealed at the Conservative Hideout, The Other McCain, The American Spectator, and Viral Read.  When Jeanette Runyon filed her FOIA request, she enabled this new information to be discussed at all levels of the media.  Here are some excerpts from the CBS12 interview…

Tonight in this CBS 12 exclusive, the victim’s family in this case separates the truth from the rumors.
 
The rumor: The Smiths turned Kate Hunt into police when she turned 18 because she had a gay relationship with their daughter.
With that accusation, Laurie and Jim Smith say they were harassed by phone and emails, threatened, and hated. People called them “gay-haters.” But they took the hits, they say to protect their then 14 year old daughter.
“I don’t think she understands that and I don’t know she ever until she becomes a mother.” said Laurie Smith, trying to describe the scrutiny and pressure on her family as the case caught fire in the media.
 
The truth: New documents released show Kate promised to end the relationship months before her arrest.
Confronted in emails by the Smith’s niece, Shanne Reason, Kate Hunt admits “I know I am 18 and I can get in trouble, but I understand the consequences.”
Kate promised to end it.
That’s not the story her “Stop the Hate Free Kate” movement told the media.
 
“I feel good knowing that they know, I didn’t lie.” Laurie said.

Please go and read the rest.  There is video at the site, and it could not be embedded.

Now, local media are reporting the truth about Kaitlyn Hunt and the #FreeKate supporters.

If you would like to see @ABC2020, the Today Show and @TCPalm update their stories as well, kindly contact them.  Here are links to the latest posts that expose the #FeeeKate lies…

#FreeKate Update: New Information Proves that Kaitlyn Hunt Knew That Her Relationship was Illegal, and That She Was Warned to End it

#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family Claims Anti-gay Bias, Police Investigation Finds None-Kelley Hunt Smith Engages in it?

#FreeKate Update: Victim Tried to Break Off Relationship, Kaitlyn Hunt ‘Wouldn’t Let Her,’ Described to Have ‘Problem With Lying’

Cbs 12 Exclusive: Kate Hunt’s Former Girlfriend’s Family Reacts to Her Sentence

And, of course, #FreeKate supporters are still lying in order  to ban people that tell the truth…

Mix still lyingSadly, anyone on the planet is able to see that Mr. Mix only seeks to silence the truth about #FreeKate.  By using false spam reports in an effort to silence people that tell the truth, he only harm’s his own cause.  His own actions speak to his motivations.   His bully tactics continue to backfire, yet that’s all he has to counter the truth.

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#FreeKate Update: Victim Tried to Break Off Relationship, Kaitlyn Hunt ‘Wouldn’t Let Her,’ Described to Have ‘Problem With Lying’

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For the latest post in our series based on the information acquired via a FOIA request filed by Jeanette Runyon, we take a look into the nature of Kaitlyn Hunt’s relationship with her victim.  It seems that the victim tried to break off the relationship, but Kaitlyn wasn’t willing to do that.  I will be quoting two sources; Detective Shepherd’s report, and the text messages exchanged between Kelly Hunt Smith, and her daughter’s victim.  Please note that since the victim is a minor,  I will minimize the input from her part of the conversation to protect her from undo scrutiny, as well as from retaliation from the Hunts, or their supporters.

In essence, from two sources, we find that the victim tried to break off the relationship at some time prior to January 9, 2013, and Kaitlyn Hunt threatened to openly disclose that the victim was a lesbian.  Note that this come over one month before the arrest of Kaitlyn Hunt.  First, here is a screen capture from Detective Shepherd regarding a talk he had with the Captain of the Basketball team…

investigation no gay bias5

As you can see, the victim (indicated by her initials, C.S.) was reported as trying to break off the relationship.

Kiandrea told me that C.S. told her she attempted at one point to break it off with Kaitlyn.  However, Kaitlyn would not let her. Kaitlyn threatened to tell people about her sexual orientation.

Now, here are a serious screencaptures of the January 9, 2013 conversation between Kelley Hunt Smith, and the victim of her daughter…

cs tried to leave

khs victim 10

khs victim 10

What do U mean? Uve tried to break it off with her, and she wouldn’t let u? Kelley Hunt Smith

She threatened to put all the stuff we had out.  So. Like I’m not with all that. The victim of Kaitlyn Hunt

In this interaction, Kelley Hunt Smith does provide the victim with more information about her daughter…

kate lies

kate lies 2

Sweetie I hate to tell u this, but Kate has some issues, especially with lying.

Kate knows I have my concerns with it. You are very young. I don’t know if your parents and an family knew about this or approved, which obviously they don’t. 

I think what we are starting to see is that a young and vulnerable teen was taken in by an adult that has, “some issues, especially with lying.”  When the younger teen tried to break off the relationship, the adult threatened to make known that the young girl was a lesbian.

And what else did Kelley Hunt Smith think of the relationship between Kaitlyn and the victim?

cant understand what love is

Ur both young and at your age can’t understand what love is.

Just to add to the argument, let’s review some of the information that was uncovered in the Notification of Violation of Pretrial Release…

“Keep the f*ck quiet.”

“if my mom finds out we’re talking, I’m blaming it on you.”

“F*ck you…You’re stupid…you want me to go to jail…you’re such a messed up person…you snitched on me.

Kaitlyn Hunt, to her victim.

Does this not run completely counter the the assertion of #FreeKate supporters, like Rachael Carson Zerbe, who claimed that this was nothing more than a “loving relationship” between “peers?” Does “love” mean threatening to “out” someone if they leave a relationship?  Does it mean sending verbally abusive texts?  Or, was this an exploitative relationship, based on lies and threats?  I think the evidence, and the reaction Kelley Hunt Smith, would suggest that.

But there is more…

cant understand what love is2

 

Not to mention that your both very young to label yourselves sexually.  U may grow up to date guys, get married, and have kids. If u truly feel that you bi or a lesbian those are thoughts and feelings u should share with your parents.

Does this sound like a parent that was ready to go to war over this being “anti-gay bias?”   It seems that she believes that they are not set in their sexuality.

But was the victim a lesbian at all?

I don't like girls

 

 But, what I’ve tried to teach her is that lying always leads to something bad.  Kelley Hunt Smith

smh & this is.  I’m so sorry  I don’t like girls.  I guess I got wrapped up in Kate & what she would say.  Aha. Wow. yeah.  Victim of Kaitlyn Hunt

Once again, I think that we are seeing a very young girl who fell victim to manipulation at the hands of an adult.  She indicated in the above comment, as well as in another (unpublished one), that she isn’t a lesbian.   However, we see that Kaitlyn hunt was able to manipulate her into at least acting like one.

And, But, what I’ve tried to teach her is that lying always leads to something bad. could be an epitaph for this entire case.

For me, this interaction very strongly suggests that Kaitlyn Hunt was engaged in  a verbally abusive and manipulative relationship with a young teen.  The young teen was confused and easily manipulated by the older, more savvy adult, who in the words of her own mother, had problems with lying.

It also raises the question of what happened to the Kelley Hunt Smith, who in this entire interaction, was rather nurturing to the young victim?  Why did she go from being supportive and kind to this?

James and Laurie Smith wouldn’t give up. They were out to destroy my daughter, they feel like my daughter “made” their daughter gay. They are bigoted, religious [zealots] that see being gay as a sin and wrong, and they blame my daughter. Of course I see it 100% different. I don’t see or label these girls as gay. They are teenagers in high school experimenting with their sexuality, all teens do it in one form or another. They are teens, its healthy and normal. And even if their daughter is gay, who cares, she is still their daughter. (Emphasis added)

And why does Kelley Hunt Smith talk about the victim being “gay” when the victim herself told her that she was not?  Why did Kelley Hunt Smith go from indicating that they were too young to label themselves sexually, to stating that the young victim was gay?

The questions are starting to get a bit numerous, aren’t they?

In a sense, this post does leave us with  a number of unanswered questions.  However, it does show us that the relationship between Kaitlyn Hunt and her victim was abusive and controlling, and when the victim tried to leave, Kaitlyn Hunt threatened to “tell people” about her “sexual orientation.” And, if homosexual behavior is, in the words of Kelley Hunt Smith, “healthy and normal,” why did her daughter threaten her young victim with exposing that very “healthy and normal” behavior?  Why the inconsistency?  Or was it just a case of an adult using power and control to manipulate a young teen into staying in a relationship?  You can be the judge of that.

While we know more, I have a hunch that this is only the tip of the iceberg.  But, unless other legal developments come about, we will likely not know.  What we are left with is a traumatized victim and family, whose only desire was to protect their young daughter from an adult that wouldn’t let go.

For now, this is the last post regarding the information obtained in the FOIA request filed by Jeanette Runyon.   As always, should something newsworthy, such as more harassment, arrests, bullying, “pretend IRL stalking,” new evidence emerges, or legal developments occur, we will revisit the case.   In other words, this story is alive as the Hunts and their supporters make it.

Also, I will make the same offer that the website Support Honesty makes.  If there is any kind of actual documentation that proves anything in these last three posts incorrect, I will happily post it to correct the public record.  However, “documentation” means actual documentation, not, “because I said so.”

As always, we need to thank Jeanette Runyon, who has born the brunt of much abuse at the hands of #FreeKate supporters.  From openly plotting to get her banned from Twitter via false spam reports, to one even pretending to stalk her IRL, Jeanette came through under pressure.  Also, we need to thank Robert Stacy McCain, of The Other McCain, whose extensive Twitter readership, his blog, Viral Read, and an American Spectator post all supported the release of this information.  We also need to acknowledge the Smith family, that dug in and stayed the course for the sake of their daughter.  There are a host of other bloggers and individuals to thank and acknowledge, and I will do that in a future post.

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#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family Claims Anti-gay Bias, Police Investigation Finds None-Kelley Hunt Smith Engages in it?

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Alleged Sex Offender Kaitlyn Hunt in Court

From the earliest days of the #FreeKate story, the Hunt family had claimed that ant-gay bias was the reason for the arrest of their daughter.  Their claim was that the Smiths (the parents of Kaitlyn Hunt’s victim) had told school staff that they were upset that Kaitlyn Hunt had “made” their daughter gay, and that was unacceptable to them.   However, the police investigation was unable to find anyone who heard that.  Here are some excerpts from Detective Shepherd’s report…

investigation no gay biasinvestigation no gay bias 2

 

investigation no gay bias 3

investigation no gay bias 4

investigation no gay bias5

“…has never heard them make any anti-gay comments and has never heard them say that Kaitlyn (Hunt) turned their daughter gay,” seems to be the lowest common denominator.

Note that others were interviewed, but did not know the Smiths.

As you can see.  Detective Shepherd asked this question quite a few times, and no one stated that they heard the Smiths making such a comment.  So, the question is, did the Smiths ever make such comments?  And, if so, to  whom?  Or, is the claim of anti-gay bias just another invention of the Hunt family in order to take the attention off of Kaitlyn’s behavior?

It is also useful to review that the Vero Beach Chapter of PFLAG found no evidence of bias…

  The Other McCain has the details…

The local chapter of Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) refuses to support accused sex offender Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt:

PFLAG of Vero Beach has received questions and comments regarding the controvery involving the two young ladies in Sebastian.
We have been watching the developments in this case since it was brought to our attention. PFLAG of Vero Beach cannot enter into the controversy for the following reason. We have not been able to find where the charges brought against this unfortunate young lady are inspired by homophobia, or are in any way anti-LGBTQ. . . .
The cry of discrimination, unless more facts come out, does not seem to apply here. Some very simple research yields cases where heterosexual kids have been arrested and prosecuted under the same law.

But, who HAS demonstrated anti-gay bias?  The FOIA information obtained by Jeanette Runyon features a text conversation between Kaitlyn Hunt’s victim, and Kelley Hunt Smith, dated January 9, 2013.  Here is a comment from Kelly Hunt Smith to her daughter’s victim…

kelley doesnt agree with gaykelley doesnt agree with gay2kelley doesnt agree with gay3

 

“I am a Christian and have faith in god, so for me, I don’t think it’s right, or what god intended.”

That comment would get any Christian branded as a “hater,” would it not?

Kelley Hunt Smith doesn’t believe that being gay is “right,” or isn’t “what god intended.”  Is that anti-gay?  She said she wanted Kaitlyn to see a counselor about it…because of issues with her father?

I told her that I didn’t feel like she was gay, and I felt like she needed to go talk to a counselor about her issues with her dad.

Was she suggesting that this “made” her daughter gay?

Kelley Hunt Smith stated that the victim was too young, and the relationship wasn’t healthy?   If she believed that, why didn’t she do more to stop a relationship she admitted was problematic?

So, this is what Kelly Hunt Smith tells the victim-that she believes in God, and that she doesn’t believe that homosexuality “is right.”  But in May, she was saying something rather different about the situation…

They were both students in the same high school, it was a mutual consenting relationship on both parts.

This was unusual for Kate, she has always dated boys, but being the kind of mother I am, I didn’t want to make it a big deal. I talked to her about it, and figured it was just a social thing, times have changed and a lot of kids are experimenting, so I didn’t make much of it.

James and Laurie Smith wouldn’t give up. They were out to destroy my daughter, they feel like my daughter “made” their daughter gay. They are bigoted, religious [zealots] that see being gay as a sin and wrong, and they blame my daughter. Of course I see it 100% different. I don’t see or label these girls as gay. They are teenagers in high school experimenting with their sexuality, all teens do it in one form or another. They are teens, its healthy and normal. And even if their daughter is gay, who cares, she is still their daughter.

Unfortunately by the letter of the law, this girl has NO voice. Her parents can play the “victims” and ruin my daughters life. We have written letters through our attorneys trying to appeal to these people as parents, talk through it and come to some agreement or understanding but James and Laurie Smith refuse. These people’s delusional stand, their hate and bigotry is tearing our daughter apart.

Note the VERY different tone between January and May?  Kelley Hunt Smith contradicts what she said to the victim, and them attacks the Smiths, for having the same beliefs that she stated having in January?

Once again, we see some glaring differences between what Kelley Hunt Smith says, and what Kelley Hunt Smith says.  The question is, when was she lying, or was she lying at both times?

Tomorrow, we will take a look into the relationship between Kaitlyn Hunt and her victim, and have some more revealing comments from her mother.

Once again, we need to extend our thanks to Jeanette Runyon, who braved being banned by on Twitter by a handful of #FreeKate supporters, who have even pretended to stalk her in real life.  And while her attackers knowingly spread lies about her, she was busy obtaining the factual information that you have seen in the posts over the last two days.

 NOTE:  As the police investigation noted, two coaches indicated that Kaitlyn Hunt was NOT on the basketball team, and had not made the team.  She was permitted to work out with the team, but was told to stop due to “drama.”

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#FreeKate Update: New Information Proves that Kaitlyn Hunt Knew That Her Relationship was Illegal, and That She Was Warned to End it

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The news on the #FreeKate front has been sparse lately.  Other than a handful of #FreeKate supporters openly conspiring to get Jeanette Runyon banned from Twitter via false spam reports, there hasn’t been much about the case itself.  But, while @NicoleBonnett1 was pretending to stalk the Twitter Gulag inhabitant (plus her disabled veteran husband, her community, and her church) in real life, Jeanette was working on the case.  She had the thought to file a Freedom of Information Act Request with the IRC Sheriff’s Office.  That information arrived this past Friday.   Jeanette received over 300 pages of materials on the case.  Much of that information directly contradicts the claims of the Hunt family, and their supporters. Over the next several days, The Other McCain, and the Conservative Hideout, will be pointing out those blatant contradictions.

For today’s contradiction, or correction, that is, we have to revisit the claims that Kaitlyn Hunt did not know that her relationship with her victim was illegal, and they claim that she was never warned to end the relationship.  Here is an interview in which Kaitlyn Hunt denied knowing that she was aware that the relationship was illegal.

The claim that Kaitlyn Hunt was unaware of the illegal nature of the relationship with her victim was repeated in the 20/20 interview in early October as well.

However, information obtained from the IRC Sheriff’s Office via the FOIA Request filed by Jeanette Runyon definitely contradicts the claims of ignorance made by Kaitlyn Hunt.  The following screen-captures are from the police file, and features a Facebook chat between Kaitlyn Hunt, and a cousin of the victim…

Kaitlyn knew was warnedKaitlyn knew was warned 2Kaitlyn knew was warned 3

Note that I made the last capture wide enough to show the date of the conversation, which was January 9th.  I also, overlapped the conversation to make sure that nothing was left out.  And, if you read the first entry by Kaitlyn Hunt, you see that she fully acknowledges that she could get into trouble for her relationship with her victim.  So why then, did Kaitlyn Hunt state, to a national TV audience, that she did not know that the relationship was problematic?

Also, why did the Hunt family state that Kaitlyn was never warned to end the relationship, when this conversation obviously happened?  Also, I have to ask why Julia Graves, Kaitlyn Hunt’s lawyer, allow her client to lie on national TV?  Surely they were aware of this exchange, as it was in the police file?   Or, was it that they thought that this exchange would never see the light of day?  No matter which way you slice it, Kaitlyn Hunt knowingly and intentionally lied on national television.

Over the coming days, more and more information will be coming out about the case.  It is our intention to set the record straight and correct the false narrative set by the Hunts and their supporters.

Oh, and to @NicoleBennett1, @Periabo, Rachael Carson Zerbe, and crew; no amount of fake spam reports, making up crazy claims about people, false police reports, or PRETENDING to stalk people IRL will prevent this information from getting out.  While you were busy lying about Jeanette, she was busy exposing the lies.  This post is only the beginning.

How are all of your bullying tactics working out for you?

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UPDATE:  Also, #FreeKate Supporters are keeping it classy in the comments at The Other McCain…

Documents Prove Kaitlyn Hunt Lied; Knew Sex With 14-Year-Old Was Illegal _ The Other McCain - 2013-11-24_23.16.30

However, the would be stalkers have, as I indicated earlier, have only PRETENDED to stalk Jeanette, and her disabled veteran husband, her community, as well as her church.

Here is some content from The Other McCain…

BOOM:

Florida sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt, whose case became a cause for many gay rights activists this year, was aware that her affair with a 14-year-old was illegal, documents obtained from the Indian River County Sheriff’s Office show.
“Yes, I know I’m 18 and can get in trouble,” Hunt said in an online conversation more than a month before her February arrest, “but I understand the consequences and I know what I got myself into when I entered the relationship with [the underage girl].”
Hunt, who last month pleaded no contest to multiple felony charges in the case, has claimed in media interviews that she did not realize her involvement with the minor was a crime in Florida, where the legal age of consent is 16. “I wouldn’t have continued, if I really knew what the laws were and if I knew what I was getting myself into,” Hunt told ABC’s Matt Gutman in an interview broadcast on the network’s 20/20 program. . .

Blatant lies blatantly exposed.

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#FreeKate Supporters Continue to Lie in Order to Ban Those That Expose Them, Display Anti-Christian Hatred

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If you want to see the extent to which people will lie to censor those that have exposed their own public comments, you have to look no farther than a small group of #FreeKate supporters.  You see, they are targeting Jeanette Runyon because she has tirelessly exposed their desire to legalize adult minor sex, as well as the fact that they were admittedly lying about Jeanette being convicted of “human trafficking,”  Both myself and Stacy McCain have covered this…

#FreeKate Update: Supporters Lie to Censor Those That Quote Them-Shutuppery in Action!

Relentless Perversity: #FreeKate Freaks Attempt to Silence Courageous Critics

To Tolerance of Intolerance, and Why Pointing That Out is a ‘Crime’

How Dare You Quote Me, Haters?!’

Well, like most people that lack morals or ethics, they haven’t thought to realize that untold numbers of people across the US and around the world are now aware of their activities, including Twitter Support.  And, they obviously haven’t realized that this runs counter of their efforts to silence Jeanette for pointing out their multitudes of lies and desire to legalize jail bait.  Nope, being would-be internet bullies, they never learn, and do what they know-they double-down on the stupid.  Here are some screen captures, because as well all know, quoting someone’s public statements is  “harassment and stalking,” right?

still reportedng JeanetteQuoting =harassment, proving that they lied, even worse!

Then one, “Katie” Murphy, took the lying to Facebook, because the only solution to being caught lying is to remove the evidence, right?

katie complained about thisBecause her own quotes are, “graphic violence,” right?

katie complained

You see, there are no lengths to which they will go in order to lie.  They want Jeannette to STFU, and they’ll pretty much say anything to make it happen, including harassing her husband, who is a disabled vet, and is not even on social media.

katie harassing hubIf you recall, instead of stating their case, #FreeKate admins dug up “dirt” on the victim’s mother, and the detective investigating the case.  Here, rather than simply stop lying, these supporters are doing the same thing to Jeanette’s husband, who is a retired, disabled veteran.  And, Jeanette has informed me that her husband was never arrested.  So, it is clear that what they cannot find, they will invent.

Here is more…

tracking hubbyWe’ll discuss the DVD’s at a later time, it will be interesting, and fun.   Note the indications that they are going to harass Jeanette’s husband in every potential setting that they can find?  But we’re the stalkers for quoting them, right?

Now, when these people aren’t supporting the effort to legalize jailbait, lying about Jeanette, and their effort to silence her by harassing her retired, disabled veteran husband, they engage in some religious hatred as well.

chrsitians are molesters“In with the molesters?”

Interestingly enough, it is far more statistically likely for a child to be molested in a school  than a church.  Just like the victim of Kaitlyn Hunt!  Make no sudden moves, and allow the irony to sweep over you.  It doesn’t get much more powerful than that.

As usual, we are dealing with people that completely lack morals.  When their public statements are brought to light, they engage in the usual leftist tactics of “digging up dirt,’ and inventing it when they cannot find it.  Then, they proclaim their detractors to be “stalkers,” and  engage in a pattern of lies and harassment against them.  In other words, they engage in projection, doing all the things that they accuse their critics of, and more.

Sadly for them, their ongoing efforts only draw more and more attention to themselves, limiting their effectiveness.

In the end, liars hate the truth, and when confronted with it, they attack those that present that truth.

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#FreeKate Update: Supporters Lie to Censor Those That Quote Them-Shutuppery in Action!

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Something that most Americans hate is censorship.  Freedom of speech is a cornerstone of our Republic  It allows even people that advocate legalizing statutory rape to have a voice.  However, it does not allow for defamation.  A couple days ago, I covered that some #FreeKate supporters were openly and admittedly using false information to smear Jeanette Runyon.  Jeanette’s “crime” was to post their public comments that showed that they were lying about her being involved in “human trafficking.”

  I will go into the fact the “katers” defaming Jeanette Runyon have been thoroughly exposed as rather infamous liars, yet they continue to double down on their lies, even though they KNOW they are lying.  Here are some examples…

lies about jeanetteJeanette tells us that this is a lie, willingly and intentionally told. 

lies about Jeanette repeatedRepetition makes it true, right?

they don't care if its trueThey don’t care if it’s true or not.

mattingly glad someone made it upMr. Mattingly is glad that someone made up the false information about Jeanette?

And finally, what do you do when someone keeps on pointing out that you openly support legalizing adult-minor sex?

lie about spamYou lie about spam in the hopes that they get time in the Twitter Gulag.

So, as you can see, when lying about someone doesn’t get them to shut up, you try to get others to shut them up.

And, they did exactly as they said they would.  They reported Jeanette as spam, and her Twitter accounts were suspended.  Sadly, she needed extra accounts, as her previous ones were suspended by #Freekate supporters to stop her from discussing the facts of the Kailtyn Hunt case.

Here are more screen-captures…

FireShot Screen Capture #065 - 'Twitter _ RealJeanetteR_ @rsmccain @MrEvilMatt ___' - censorshiopTranslation:

How dare you describe our attempts to defame Jeanette Runyon into silence!

The only problem these people have is a rather big one.  The more they do this, the more people pay attention.  They more they lie in order to ban people, the more people are going to discuss it.  People hate censorship, and will point it out where it happens…lots of people.

So, why don’t you ask @support why @nicolebonnet1, @Periabo, @jhnmattingly09 and crew are able to intentionally post defamatory information, and the lie about spam to get someone suspended for pointing that out?  You also  might want to point out that at least some of those people openly want to legalize adult-minor sex as well.

To our spam happy liars, I can only say this; do your worst, you have a national audience that will see every false claim you make.  Every lie you tell will be documented for the planet to see.  Enjoy your fail.

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To Tolerance of Intolerance, and Why Pointing That Out is a ‘Crime’

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Stacy McCain nails it tonight, when he writes about how the our “champions of tolerance” simply cannot bring themselves to tolerate any opinion that deviates from their own…

There is a phenomenon on the Left — especially among academics and other “intellectual” types, including feminists — where they become so used to living within cocoons of like-minded sympathizers that they don’t realize how weird their ideas seem to normal people. And so, when somebody outside the cocoon takes notice and quotes their deranged gibberish, these people claim victimhood: Those right-wing [sexists, homophobes, racists, Koch-funded Rethuglicans, whatever] are [harassing, libeling, slut-shaming, whatever] me!

You can ask Jeanette Runyon how she has actually been reported to the police for the alleged crime of quoting some of the “Free Kate” weirdos who want to legalize sex with 14-year-olds.

See, the Left has spent so long preaching the rhetoric of “rights” that some of them have begun to believe their own propaganda, so that merely disagreeing with them makes you a criminal.

I could go into a million directions here.  For example, we could go on for some time about my observation that leftist ideology is so narrow in it’s definitions that they often look completely idiotic while trying to stuff every single world event into their victim narrative.   I will go into the fact the “katers” defaming Jeanette Runyon have been thoroughly exposed as rather infamous liars, yet they continue to double down on their lies, even though they KNOW they are lying.  Here are some examples…

lies about jeanetteJeanette tells us that this is a lie, willingly and intentionally told. 

lies about Jeanette repeatedRepetition makes it true, right?

they don't care if its trueThey don’t care if it’s true or not.

mattingly glad someone made it upMr. Mattingly is glad that someone made up the false information about Jeanette?

And finally, what do you do when someone keeps on pointing out that you openly support legalizing adult-minor sex?

lie about spamYou lie about spam in the hopes that they get time in the Twitter Gulag.

So, as you can see, when lying about someone doesn’t get them to shut up, you try to get others to shut them up.

Of course, there is a lot more to that story as well.

This entire exchange about Jeanette’s “record,” and it’s use by the “katers,” reminds me of something that Matt Forney wrote referenced in his post, The Rabbits Go to War; or, How Your Haters Will Try to Destroy You

Scientific studies have repeatedly shown that leftists have underdeveloped amygdalae compared to conservatives, the reason why they are r-selected. The amygdala is the part of the brain responsible for keeping you alive by forcing you to react to stimuli that might be dangerous (such as an animal trying to eat you). Amygdala damage prevents liberals from properly assessing danger, causing them to react and overreact to the wrong stimuli (and fail to react to the proper ones):

In my experiences with Narcissists, their amygdala is so sensitive to anxiety, that just telling them any information which bothers them sets it off like a nuclear bomb, forcing them into an immediate state of denial of the offending stimuli, to try and short-circuit the “brain pain.” Tell a Narcissist something he doesn’t want to hear, and it is like spraying pepper spray from a fire extinguisher into his face. He won’t listen to the entire idea, consider it, and then reject it, like we would. Instead, the Narcissist will begin to get the faintest whiff of what you are saying, identify it as bad, and then he will close his eyes, hide his head, and wave his arms while screaming, until you are finished.

This is the heart of why feminists and leftists are so weak, so panicky, so incapable of handling dissent or debate. Because they can’t tell the difference between a deke-out and the real deal, they treat them both with the same amount of gravity. The reason why feminists get so angry over “rape culture,” for example, is not because they care for victims of rape, but because their malfunctioning amygdalae regards any stimulus that is perceived to be rape-related as equivalent to an actual rape.

If you take a look at Forney’s post, it is quite spot-on.  In essence, the haters are wimps that have to gang up on someone, because in their own, “special snowflake” reality, they are the “good guys.”    Their world view is so twisted, that they think any opposition, and especially quoting them, is a vicious and brutal attack.  However, that same world view limits them to defining themselves as victims  so we get treated to this lie-fest.   Then, you see the victim-hood kick in fully, especially if you quote them and mention their openly stated intentions (How dare you describe my attempts to intimidate you into silence!).

And when the lies fail, they have to find other ways to make the truth stop.  That’s when you see the false police reports, the “monitoring” of people that point out that their openly stated goal is to make it legal for adults to have sex with minors.  They have to make truth go away, no matter how many lies they have to tell. Reality is their enemy, and they have target anyone who expresses it.

Oh, and they fail at it too.

Because, you know, tolerance!

And, just a final thought:  Since I quoted public their statements, I will be accused of harassment, stalking, or something, because even when they are stalking and lying about others, they are still the victims, mmkay?

As a reminder, I don’t recommend contacting, harassing, threatening, doxing, or otherwise molesting these poor “special snowflakes.” They might cry.

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This is How the Left Operates: Teacher’s Union Official Tries to ‘Dig up Dirt,” Smear Concerned Parent Who Questioned Curriculuum

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One thing that I’ve been stressing over the last few years is how the left operates in terms of dealing with dissent.  We saw that during the ObamaCare debates.  When we predicted (2-3 years ago) all of the things that are happening right now, we were smeared.  Instead of using facts to debate us, lefties called us the usual set of names…

1.  RAAAAACIST!

2.  They’re getting paid by the insurance companies to LIE!

3.  They just want people to DIIIIIIIEEEEEE!

4. TEABAGGERZ!!!!!!!

I could go on, but you get the point.  Instead of using facts, which they did not have, the lefties  just attacked the messenger, or, as R.S. McCain puts it, “accuses the accusers.”

There are two primary reasons to do this…

1.  Get others to ignore them.  If you smear the messenger, others will be discouraged from listening to what the target has to say.  Why listen to what a “racist, redneck, teabagger” has to say, right?

2.  Intimidates others into not revealing any inconvenient facts.  After all, you can’t have the sheeple having independent thoughts, can you?

This whole strategy was shown again, when a resident of Camp Hill PA, Josh Barry, questioned some assignments at his child’s school.  In the public indoctrination centers, the curriculum is NOT to be questioned!  What happened next is purely leftist retaliation…

Josh Barry, of Camp Hill, Penn., expressed concern after his daughter brought home an assignment analyzing a New York Times article discussing the recent government shutdown. Examiner.com first reported the story.

The assignment asked questions like, “Whom do you hold most responsible for the government shutdown?” and “Do you feel it is principled or irresponsible for politicians to threaten a shutdown?”

Barry thought it was an exercise in indoctrination.

After contacting his daughter’s teacher, Barry heard back from the school’s principal. After a discussion, a friend of Barry’s relayed a voicemail she received from another teacher named Cydnee Cohen.

Cohen, who is also the president of the local chapter of the teacher’s union — the East Pembrook Education Association, which is part of the Pennsylvania State Education Association (PSEA) — said on the voicemail, “We’re having some problems with a parent in our school district and on his [Facebook] page you are one of his friends … but I would like to know, some of it seems like he is a neo-Nazi.”

Cohen then says, “Maybe he is Jewish, I don’t know.”

After it was confirmed that Barry is, in fact, Jewish, Cohen sent text messages to the mutual friend which read “he went to bishop mcdevitt!!” and “he is tea party right wing!” Bishop McDevitt is a nearby private Catholic high school.

Here is some video…

So then, a parent raises an issue with a politicized curriculum (the Examiner has more on that), and in response, another teacher, who is an union official, starts digging into the background of the parent!

You have to remember though, that when people question our would-be regressive overlords, there is a price to be paid.  There can be no debate-they believe they are right, facts be damned.  If you speak out against them, YOU are wrong, because they said so!  And, since they do not have a fact to stand on, they just try to dig up dirt.

The “digging of the dirt.” is a familiar strategy to those who cannot stand on facts.  If you recall, the #FreeKate bunch did that regularly.  Since they couldn’t stand up to facts, they “dug up dirt” on the mother of a sexual abuse victim. Then, they tried to dig up dirt on the Detective that was investigating the case.  Then, they dug up dirt on Jeanette Runyon and filed false police reports against her, and claimed to have people tracking and investigating R.S. McCain.

In the end, this is not an aberration, it is standard operating procedure for leftists.  They don’t want to talk about your views, or the facts that you can bring to the table.  they want you to shut up, because liars hate the truth.

Related Post: Teacher Calls Parent ‘Neo-Nazi’ for Criticizing Eighth-Grade Project

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This is How the Left Works: The Stalking and Harassing of Scott Walker and His Family

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I have devoted a great deal of time to covering the tactics of the left.  Whether it’s been Union goons, Occupy Wall Street, of even #FreeKate, they all try to use thug tactics to threaten and attack their adversaries.  Here are some of the tactics being used against Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker when the unions were trying to maintain their death grip on public workers…

The letter was addressed to Walker’s wife, Tonette. It read:

Has Wisconsin ever had a governor assassinated? Scotts heading that way. Or maybe one of your sons getting killed would hurt him more. I want him to feel the pain. I already follow them when they went to school in Wauwatosa, so it won’t be too hard to find them in Mad. Town. Big change from that house by [BLANK] Ave. to what you got now. Just let him know that it’s not right to [EXPLETIVE] over all those people. Or maybe I could find one of the Tarantinos [Tonette’s parents] back here.

But, Walker’s opponents didn’t stop at just death threats.  They were following his family members, including his children…

Erwin worked tirelessly to ensure Walker’s safety, the book notes. And it wasn’t just for him: Walker’s entire family was apparently being stalked.

“Governor, I’ve been at this awhile, and when the hairs stand up on the back of my neck, you have to be concerned,” the former Marine told Walker. “They know where you go to church; they’ve been to your church. They’re following your children and tracking your children. They know where your children go to school, what time they have class, what time they get out of class.”

“They know when they had football practice. They know where your wife works, they know that she was at the grocery store at this time, they know that she went to visit her father at his residence,” he said.

The size of Walker’s security detail was eventually increased and troopers had to be assigned to monitor his children at school.

This is what leftists, bullies, and other goons do.  This is not the exception-it is the rule.  For example, one of the former #FreeKate supporters that contacted me told me that once they broke with that group, and started talking about what they knew, they were contacted by other #FreeKate supporters.  Those supporters threatened not only the “defector,” but their family and even children as well.  The groups formerly known as ACORN were well know for having protests at the schools attended by their target’s children.  And, we remember how Occupy Wall Street terrorized children…

When one has no morals, terrorizing children is nothing more than a tactic, or a means to an end.

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#FreeKate Update: Some Supporters Think Nine Year Olds Ready for Sex?

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I have to admit that as of late, the #FreeKate crowd hasn’t been threatening to kill or “ruin.” people, which is a plus.  That, and it’s allowed me even more to cover other stories of importance, like the failure of ObamaCare and the democrat shutdown of the government.  However, a more disturbing trend has emerged; the endorsement of lower and lower ages of consent.  Here are some screen captures to illustrate my point…

9 or 10Note the second comment…

13 to 19 yo

Is she saying that13 and 19 is OK?

jasper kids sex

So, they are only victims because we tell them they are?  What next, deconstruct robbery?  Murder?

13 year oldsA

Next, here is expanded context of the comment, plus who “liked” it.

5 year difference likes

Thankfully, there are people in that group countering those suggestions.  However, why are these ideas even permitted in the group run by the Hunts?  They certainly have no problem banning people left and right that post the legal details of the case, so why not ban people the hint at sex with 9 year olds?  Also, note that many of the “leaders” of the #FreeKate “movement” liked the post about 13 year olds!

wird pollFrankly, that’s rather disturbing, given that it’s coming from the “support page.”

FK supporter thinks 13

when body is matureOnce their body is mature?

9 yr old okSo, questioning this person is “bullying,” and nine years old seems OK by him.

I think this ought to show you the thinking that is going on within #FreeKate.  I think their statements speak for themselves. They are in favor of decreasing the age of consents to dangerously low ages.  Their own words indicate this.

Of course, I will be accused of stalking and bullying.  Because, as we all know, quoting people is stalking, libel, slander, and other pejoratives.  And, also never forget that for “Katers,” truth=hate.

As I have indicated before, I believe that #FreeKate is the first slide on the slippery slope to normalizing pedophilia.  In this very post, we can see that the “4 year exception” to the AOC, is now being extended to five years.  And, other supporters are going even lower in age.

If you are a parent, or brother or sister, or a teacher, doctor, nurse, social worker, police officer, or anyone else who has/deals with children, you need to pay attention to this story.  As R.S. McCain has coined the phrase, “bad causes attract bad people.” There are registered sex offenders among the #FreeKate supporters.  There are others that would make it “open season” on young teens.  Then, after a few years, the push will come for ever younger kids, because once they get access to 13 or 14 year olds, they will be emobldended to go after 11 and 12 year olds.

Before I close, here is a statement…

I have not, nor will I, target a person in a way that jeopardizes their safety.  Even when I quoted Kelley Hunt Smith when she told the victim to “delete everything,” I redacted her the email address and phone number from the quote-even though it was included in the court documents.  I have never “doxed” another human being, or attempted to contact a person’s employer.  I have never called the subject of any of my posts, nor have I harassed or threatened them by any means.  I have never tried to ruin a person’s career, post pictures of their homes, or gave out names of his or her family members.  I know other people do that-I have documented when those tactics were used in other situations, and I condemn it categorically.

I debate or post, even if it’s a sarcastic rant, from the standpoint of the truth.  In the case of #FreeKate, we have the truth.   I go by the facts, as they are available.  I give opinions, and state them as such.  I will quote others that speak in open forums, and  if I believe myself to be correct, I will criticize and pick apart their comments, just as others have the right to do with anything I write.  There is a difference between the freedom of speech, and bullying or stalking, so I will go on the side of free speech.  When one uses the truth, it is unnecessary to use anything else.

I refuse to be bullied, and I will not engage in it myself.  The purpose of my posts on bullying are to point out how people use these tactics in order to silence others.  If the tactics can be identified, they can  be countered,  Both R.S McCain and myself have offered that the use of social media to expose bullying can reduce it’s effectiveness.  Sunlight is always the best disinfectant, and when we shine that on #FreeKate, their tactics lose their power.

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#FreeKate and Normalizing Pedophilia

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You will feel to be compelled to click the link to The Other McCain once you read the following regarding #FreeKate and the normalization of pedophilia.  Here is a sneak peek...

“But it was consensual! They were in love!
It’s normal! It’s harmless! Everybody does it!”

Every parent — no, every decent human being — who heard those rationalizations must have strained to resist the urge to grab a shotgun and hunt down the twisted freaks who make such excuses.

Why do you think they call it “jailbait”?

It’s very simple: Age-of-consent laws empower parents to protect their own children, and the fact that some parents don’t give a damn whether their kids are screwing around (hello, Kelley Hunt Smith) cannot be used to argue for a “right” to have sex with minors.

Must the citizens of Indian River County  let a pack of wretched white trash like the Hunt family set the moral standards of their community? Is Florida soon to be infamous as the Teen Sex State, where every child becomes “fair game” as soon as they start high school?

Happy 14th Birthday! (Batteries not included.)

Disagree with these sex-crazed perverts and you will be accused of “vengeance, spite, fear, denial, sadness, insanity, whatever.”

And, as one of those evil, twisted, hateful CHRISTIANS, that are telling the truth regarding this case, I too, have had my share of slings and arrows.  And, Jeanette Runyon had one last night as well…

 

 
As you can see, #FreeKate supporters never cease to keep it classy.  Oh, and remember kids, it is we CHRISTIANS that are the “evil” ones.

This is the enemy that we face-people that actively seek to legalize adult-minor sex.  From the tactics we’ve chronicled here at the CH 2.0, and that Stacy McCain has caught at The Other McCain, they don’t have a ton of boundaries that they aren’t willing to cross.  After all, if one’s goal is to legalize sex with kids, one isn’t likely to have a ton or moral standards, as #FreeKate is proving.

By the way, it seems that Stacy McCain wants us to visit a certain site.

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And he kinda, sorta hinted around about it the other day…

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It almost seems as though he thinks it’s rather important or something…

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Well, I’ll let you see for yourself.

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The Push to Normalize Pedophilia is Picking up Steam

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We have reported on this from time to time-that there is a small, yet increasingly vocal movement bent on normalizing, and then  eventually  legalizing, pedophilia.  One man, Matt Barber, has done much to help expose this effort, with their own words and deeds.   Here is his latest…

So much for the left’s “consenting adults” rhetoric on sex. Forever the consummate conservationists, our self-described “progressive” friends at the ACLU, MSNBC and elsewhere have been ramping-up efforts to downsize from “consenting adults” to merely “consenting” – a far less cumbersome qualifier in the noble struggle for unrestrained sexual license.

Tolerating “intergenerational romance” for “minor-attracted” adults is all the rage these days.

Ever hear of Kaitlyn Hunt? Over the past year or so this poor, misunderstood lesbian woman’s “anti-gay persecution” has become a cause célèbre among “gay rights” activists and other left-wing purveyors of perversion.

Despite mass rallies and online petitions signed by hundreds-of-thousands of the uber-”tolerant,” the clearly “homophobic” Florida criminal justice system has, nonetheless, convicted Ms. Hunt of multiple felonies for sexually assaulting – repeatedly – a 14-year-old girl.

Puritans.

Oh, sure, her minor victim allegedly “consented” to what the “Free Kate” crowd has portrayed as a harmless tryst – but, of course, by law children below the age of consent cannot consent to sex with adults. Period.

Please get over there and read the rest, as Barber digs a bit more deeply into the into the efforts of B4U-Act, a movement of pedophiles bent on pushing an “equality” movement that mirrors gay rights efforts.  It is here, and it will gain traction.  #FreeKate is only the fist shot of what will be a long war.  This is my idea on what will happen:

This is an incremental fight.  #FreeKate will start with an “four year exception” that allows kids in the same HS to have sexual contact, effectively legalizing statutory rape, as long as one can say that the participants are “peers.”   But, one day, some perv will be arrested for having a relationship with a “peer” that is four years and one day in age apart.  This will lead to an outrage, with supporters stating something to the effect…

“How can we condemn someone for something that was legal one day, but illegal the next?!  How can we dictate who can love one another, and how they express that love?”

And no, I did not create that out of thin air.  Those same exact arguments are made by #FreeKate supporters.  So, after this kind of argument, and likely, the remorseless harassment of the victim in this scenario.  The advocates for adult-child sex will demand that the ages be adjusted again, to allow a five, or even six year difference.

As time wears on, there will be additional arguments, sounding something like…

Because, the kids, they are doing it anyway, and it’s consensual, so why should we ruin someone’s life (by making them a sexual offender)  for a number?   That’s so arbitrary!

Again, I am paraphrasing a “Kater” argument.

As time wears on, Age of Consent Laws will be whittled away.  Current offenders will demand that their designations be removed for their “victimless crimes.”

In the end, if the pedophiles get their way, the scenario will be something like this…

Well officer, I knew he was five, but he took the candy.  That means it’s consensual!

Some of you might laugh at that one.  But, go back 40 years, and ask people on the street if they thought that gay marriage would be legal one day, or that gays would be serving openly in the armed services.  Ask them if they thought that Christian businesses would be targeted for legal action or intimation by gays.  They would have laughed at you.  Those same people, if they are still living, aren’t laughing now, and neither am I.

The push to normalize pedophilia is going on as we speak.  Which side are you choosing?

H/T:  The Other McCain

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#FreeKate Update: Blaming America’s Most Wanted’s John Walsh? Targeting Coach, Devastating Podcast

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Once again, I’d really love to put this #FreeKate story to bed, but the Hunts and their supporters simply refuse to stop blaming, and/or threatening people.  Today was a banner day in #FreeKate land, and they went gaga in terms of blame.  The latest victim is John Walsh, of America’s Most Wanted fame.  Here is some accomplishments of   John Walsh after the kidnapping and brutal murder of his young son by a pedophile…

Following the crime, the Walsh family founded the Adam Walsh Child Resource Center, a non-profit organization dedicated to legislative reform. The centers, originally located in West Palm Beach, Florida; Columbia, South Carolina; Orange County, California; and Rochester, New York; merged with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC), where John Walsh serves on the board of directors.

The Walsh family organized a political campaign to help missing and exploited children. Despite bureaucratic and legislative problems, John and Revé’s efforts eventually led to the creation of the Missing Children Act of 1982 and the Missing Children’s Assistance Act of 1984.

Today, Walsh continues to testify before Congress and state legislatures on crime, missing children and victims’ rights issues. His latest efforts include lobbying for a Constitutional amendment for victims’ rights.

The Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act (Pub.L. 109–248) was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on July 27, 2006 following a two-year journey through the United States Congress and was intensely lobbied for by Walsh and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. Primarily, it focuses on a national sex offender registry, tough penalties for not registering as a sex offender following release into society, and access by citizens to state websites that track sex offenders.

By the late 1980s, many malls, department stores, supermarkets, and other such retailers have adopted what is known as a “Code Adam,” a movement first made by Wal Mart stores in the southeastern United States. A “Code Adam” is announced when a child is missing in a store or if a child is found by a store employee or patron. If the child is lost or missing, all doors are to be locked and a store employee is posted at every exit, while a description of the child is generally broadcast over the intercom system. “Code Adam” as a term has become synonymous with a missing child, and is a predecessor to an “Amber Alert,” which serves as a system of broadcast-driven community notification.

In other words, John Walsh took the tragic murder of his son, and helped to create many legal safeguards that have likely saved countless children since.  But, according to members of the Kate’s Fight Facebook page, Walsh is the villain that is ultimately responsible for Kaitlyn Hunt’s plight.  Here are some screenshots from some Kate’s Fight insiders  from earlier today…

walsh to blamewalsh to blame 2blame walsg3blame walsh 4Please note that at the time of this writing, as far as my sources can tell, these posts are still there, even 12 hours after their posting.  What does it say about #FreeKate that they would smear and blame on of the most famous child advocates in the US?  I would remind people that movements like this need external enemies.  They need to distract from the inconsistencies in their own narratives, so what better to have a great “evil” that is oppressing them.  In this case, Walsh is just the latest in a long line.

Again, in the interest of lashing out at enemies, real or imagined, they are also talking about going after the basketball coach that initially reported the illegal activity…

hunts after mandated reporter coachOK, I addressed this before, but since they are looking at this again, let’s review…

Teachers, doctors, nurses, coaches, social workers, and anyone else who works with kids are “mandated reporters.”  Please pay close attention to the word, “mandated.” You see, if a “mandated” reporter suspects that child abuse is going on, they are MANDATED to report said abuse.  It’s not an option, or a maybe, or an alternative, it’s MANDATED!  Getting the importance of that word? Under Florida law, 14 year-olds cannot consent for sex, and adults are not allowed to have sex with minors, so the coach was MANDATED to report this activity.  So, in other words, the Hunts are looking to punish a coach because the coach obeyed the law.  They aren’t going to get very far with that,  as you can’t punish people for following the law.  “Reverse-counter-negligence” is not something that any court will recognize.  In fact, the coach could lose not only their job, but career, if they did not report the abuse.  But, it appears, by history, that the Hunts have a difficult time understanding legal mandates, don’t they?

I could go on some more, as we have screenshots of them wanting to retaliate against the local school board, and one member was even trying to track down the information on the victim’s church.

It seems that these people are dead set on lashing out at anyone, rather than look at their own behavior.  And, the longer this goes on, the more outlandish the claims become.  Given the death threats, threats to “ruin” people, and just picking “enemies” at random, I can see them getting themselves arrested at some point.

But, of course, that will be someone else’s fault as well!

In related news, Ali Akbar and Robert Stacy McCain (who also has a related post), along with a call from a former Free Kate Facebook admin, had a rather devastating podcast this evening.  It’s embedded here for your listening pleasure.

The Conservative Hideout does not recommend direct contact with the Hunts. I condemn any attempts to “dox,” harass, or threaten them in any way. We have the truth on our side, there are no need for thug tactics.

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#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family and Supporters Escalate Threats Against Truth Tellers

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Have I mentioned that I’d really like to give the #FreeKate stuff a break?  However, they keep doing and saying things that I need to document here.  Why, might you ask?  I love making connections between stories, and the tactics used  by the subjects of those stories.  #FreeKate is an incredible opportunity to take a look at these tactics, and display them to the world.  When people know and can identify the tactics, they can be countered. So, here is the latest.

A couple weeks ago, my pastor and I were discussing a recent sermon.  The gist was that people have “default” behaviors to which they are accustomed to using.  And, once one is saved, and dedicated their life to Christ, they have to take care and make sure they don’t slide back into potentially destructive “default” behaviors, because that’s what they always have done.  That closely matches my observation that people always do what they are used to doing, especially when under stress.  This is why drinkers drink, druggies drug, and bullies bully, among others.  People will find security in what they know, even if it has negative long term results, or if it actually doesn’t work at all.  It’s human nature.  Conversely, and thankfully. most people find more constructive ways to solve their problems, like working, being honest, having dignity, and working towards solutions.  I once read that most millionaires had been millionaires before, had lost it all, and built it back up again.  Obviously, these folks have very constructive “default behaviors.”

Now, imagine you are one of the Hunts, or a supporter of #FreeKate.  Most of the locals are afraid of you, so they don’t get any ideas about speaking out.  The Smiths were threatened repeatedly, and have stayed mostly silent.    The #FreeKate crowd dug up “dirt” on Laure Smith, and Detective Shepherd.  Rachael Carson Zerbe publicly posted the information regarding Detective Shepherd on Twitter. They lied on the Change.org petition.  The MSM, at least at first, bought their lies that this was a case of “bias.”  Kelley Hunt Smith instructed the victim to “delete everything.”  Kaitlyn Hunt instructed the victim to lie for her.  And after that, they began a large fundraising campaign.  Their tactics, at least to them, seemed to be working quite well.

In decades past, this would have worked.  Without social media, the MSM would have only heard the Hunts, and the rest of the world would have only heard the MSM.  There would be no defense against the Hunts, nor would there be refuge for anyone that spoke out.   It would have likely stayed local, or at least, the commentary would have.  In all probability, this would have gone a lot better for them, and maybe the could have pressured the victims family, or the court, to drop the case altogether.  They would have controlled the narrative.

But, this is the 21st century, and I think the epitaph of this story is going to be…

We would have gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for those meddling bloggers!

And not just bloggers, but people like Twitter-warrior Jeanette Runyon, who has had false police reports filed against her.  One was to the wrong jurisdiction, and the other had an incorrect phone number on it, but it’s OK, they were trying!  The Twitter presence of truth tellers is impressive, but also the person who runs Support Honesty.  Another character in the cast, is “Matt Doe.” Using social media anonymously, he has been a consistent thorn in #FreeKate’s side, reaching out to supporters with information, and causing dissent in their ranks.  Needless to say, the #FreeKate crowd is interested in finding the identities of both individuals.  After all, one cannot be harassed or threatened if one’s identity is hidden?

From the beginning, the Hunts made this a national news story-going on Today, MSNBC, and CNN, and in so doing, they brought it to the attention of people that not only actively resist bullying tactics, but point them out as a means to educate the public.  So, people like Robert Stacy McCain, myself, and others, have taken to this story to counter the lies told via #FreeKate, and give a voice to those that would speak out, but cannot due to fears for their personal or financial security.

This is where the “default behavior” kicks in.  As the Hunts and their supporters lost control of their narrative, and the truth was getting out, they began lashing out in every increasing scale.  #FreeKate supporters, with the approval of Steven Hunt, conspired to take down The Other McCain.  One supporter stated that she reported me to the police for quoting her.  And, as we have discussed  Jeanette Runyon has been falsely reported, by inept and incompetent #FreeKate supporters.  And, as we documented the other day, there have been death threats made, and threats to ruin people “professionally.”  However, none of that has prevented any of us from stating the facts of the case, or examining the actions of #FreeKate.

As we can see, when the “default” behavior does not work, an individual might “double down,” on that behavior.  A drinker may go on a binge, and a bully might escalate their tactics in the hope that their targets come into line, and do as the bully pleases.  Instead of putting the square peg in the square hole, the bully will try to pound it into the round hole.

That has continued today.  If you recall my post from the other day,  my source noted that false accusations will be made, outlandish ones if needed.  I suggested that this is a means to keep truth tellers on the defensive, by making them defend themselves, rather than discussing the facts of something.  Here are two wild accusations…

rcz jeanette threatened smithsRachael Carson Zerbe accusing Jeanette Runyon of making the televised death threat against he Smith family.

RCZ Call staged And, she states that the death threats against the Smith family were staged.

Of course, quoting Rachael’s public comments is considered to be “cyberstalking.” 

Then, besides some strange and outlandish claims, there are increasing threats…

sateve wants addressSteven Hunt trying to track down the address of a truth teller.

Please note that in the world of #FreeKate, tracking down a person’s personal address is NOT stalking.  One is only guilty of stalking if one quotes the public statements of a supporter or a member of the Hunt family.-Matt

tracking McCain

This screencapture was modified before I received it.  They are claiming to be “investigating,” and “tracking” Robert Stacy McCain.  Sadly, it seems they are tracking McCain’s son, who is at Fort Bragg. However, given the training he is receiving there, none of us fear for his safety.

But remember kids, it’s only stalking if one quotes a Hunt family member, or a supporter.  Actually tracking someone’s personal information is most definitely NOT stalking. -Matt

cease and desist

Apparently, it didn’t work. 

As the source of my recent post indicated, when all else fails, the bullies, (or rabbits as he noted) will try to enlist law enforcement in their efforts to silence of punish others.  And, when combined with making up outlandish claims, they aren’t afraid to lie about the details. And if necessary, they will completely invent the details.  That, and they’ll play the victim, accusing others of stalking them, while they are busily stalking others.

If you recall, Robert Stacy McCain summed this up nicely…

“How dare you describe my attempt to intimidate you into silence?”

So, the Hunts and their supporters are facing an interesting quandary.  If they continue to lie, file false police reports, or even continue making threats (of death and otherwise), they will eventually get arrested or sued for something.   But, on the other hand, since we know their tactics, we are continuing to speak the truth, and they cannot silence us.  It can’t be an easy position in which to find oneself.  Then again, had they not lied, made threats, hired a PR firm, went to the national media, falsely tried to make this a gay rights issue, acted so thuggishly towards detractors (or even supporters who questioned the narrative), openly advocated to legalize sex between adults and minors, or any of the other things that caused people to rightfully ask questions about their behavior and motivations, they wouldn’t be in this mess, and their daughter would be home with them right now.

The more they try to regain control of the narrative with the use of threats and nonsense, the more negative attention that they are receiving.  And, if they manage to silence one, or more of us, it will only cause others to cover the situation.  They could quickly find themselves in the situation in which there isn’t a handful of blogs covering this, but several hundred.  That has happened before, and there is no way for them to silence hundreds of us.   Frankly, I don’t see them being able to silence any of us.

Frankly, If I were them, I would just stop.  They have their plea deal.  Their daughter is coming home for Christmas.   If Kaitlyn follows the requirements of the plea deal, she’ll have her life back.  However, if they continue to use threats and intimidation to attack anyone who disagrees with them, the more people that will be notice.  And, the cycle will continue.

Note:  The Conservative Hideout and it’s contributors do not recommend direct contact with the Hunts, or any of their supporters.  I have not emailed, phoned, texted, or  doxed anyone, and I condemn any efforts to do so, from any party.  Let’s leave the threats and intimidation to the bad guys.  We have the truth on our side.  There is no need for bullying.

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