The Strange Case of the Pretend #Freekate Stalkers

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Alleged Sex Offender Kaitlyn Hunt in Court

It’s been really interesting to observe the #FreeKate supporters that are stalking Jeanette Runyon.  They have been ruthlessly using false reports in getting her banned from Twitter multiple times, yet they continue to do to Jeanette what they claim she does to them.  I covered this a couple months ago.

Here is the most interesting section…

c) Feigning victimhood: in the unlikely event of denial and counter-attack being insufficient, the bully feigns victimhood or feigns persecution by manipulating people through their emotions, especially guilt. This commonly takes the form of bursting into tears, which most people cannot handle.

Variations include indulgent self-pity, feigning indignation, pretending to be “devastated”, claiming they’re the one being bullied or harassed, claiming to be “deeply offended”, melodrama, martyrdom (“If it wasn’t for me…”) and a poor-me drama (“You don’t know how hard it is for me … blah blah blah …” and “I’m the one who always has to…”, “You think you’re having a hard time …”, “I’m the one being bullied…”).

Other tactics include manipulating people’s perceptions to portray themselves as the injured party and the target as the villain of the piece. Or presenting as a false victim. Sometimes the bully will suddenly claim to be suffering “stress” and go off on long-term sick leave, although no-one can quite establish why. Alleged ill-health can also be a useful vehicle for gaining attention and sympathy.

You see, #FreeKate supporters have lied about the case-from day one.  When they were caught lying about almost every aspect of the case, and exposed in their open efforts to legalize sex between adults and minors, they went on to attack the people stating the truth.  Then, when the people stating the truth were not silenced, and exposed the “katers” attempts to silence them, the #FreeKate supporters switched gears again, claiming to be victims themselves.

The Other McCain summarized their reaction well…

How dare you describe my attempts to intimidate you into silence!

And, as we covered back in November, the #FreeKate stalkers are still busy making sure that Jeanette is never allowed to quote them on Twitter again…

gloating over their lies being effective

This is NOT stalking, right?

So, as you can see, they are the tolerant victims of Jeanette’s “hate,” right?

Here is some background…

@JanaEschbach Interviews Smith Family Regarding #FreeKate Revelations, Supporters Still Trying Silence Truth Tellers

#FreeKate Supporters Continue to Lie in Order to Ban Those That Expose Them, Display Anti-Christian Hatred

#FreeKate Update: Supporters Lie to Censor Those That Quote Them-Shutuppery in Action!

In other words, they really don’t want anyone spreading facts about Kaitlyn hunt and the #FreeKate supporters out there.

So, here’s where it get’s curious.  @NicoleBonnet1, a #FreeKate supporter, started to claim that she had gone to Jeanette’s home state to “have people monitor her…”

nicole lie 1nicole lie 1This is NOT stalking, right?

stalking jeanettes congreationThis is NOT stalking, right?

 

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This is NOT stalking, right?

Now, as you can see, she’s stating that she went to North Carolina, and actually met with people that know Jeanette.  However, there is one problem with that…

No one in North Carolina seems to remember meeting her, or him, or whatever she claims to be.

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priest calls nicole liarSo then, no one in her church or community has heard of anything that @NicoleBonnet1 has posted.  When the local PD was approached about “monitoring,” or even having heard of this, they laughed.  It’s also interesting to point out that @NicoleBonnet1‘s typo, “applaud,” seems to be the most true thing in any of these screencaps.  The people that have responded are most favorable of Jeanette.

But, they weren’t done there, Jeanette’s husband, a disabled veteran, was also targeted…

tracking hubbyOh, and by the way, no one seems to have received these mythical DVD’s either…

katie harassing hubAccording to Jeanette, her husband was never arrested. 

And, not only have they gone after Jeanette, for exposing their lies, and support for legalizing adult-minor sex, they even went after Jana Eschbach, a reporter for CBS 12 that interviewed the Smiths, and had obtained the same information that we had in our FOIA.

Jana Eschbach (JanaEschbach) on Twitter - 2013-11-27_23.11.11Twitter _ Truebie2013_ @JanaEschbach Maybe they want ... - 2013-12-01_10.11.09Half truths, like Kaitlyn Hunt’s own words?

Thomas (Periabo) on Twitter - 2013-12-16_12.25.35Actually, Thomas Mix is lying. I never communicated with Ms. Eschbach until after her report.  She simply obtained the same legal information that we did.  You know, when one person gets the information from a legal source, and another person get’s the the same information from the same legal source, they will say the exact same thing?  But, we can’t expect Thomas Mix to tell the truth, can we?

In other words, @NicoleBonnet1 is a liar.  And, the other @FreeKate supporters like Thomas Mix, Rachael Carson Zerbe, and others are already confirmed liars, or very foolish for believing @NicoleBonnet1.  But, then again, since they have lied about the case of Kaitlyn Hunt, and openly have the desire to make adult-minor sex legal and safe for sex offenders, I guess you can’t expect too much in terms of moral or ethical behavior.

Thomas Mix has an odd sense of “victory.”

mix reaction to being pointed out.Mr. Mix, there is no meltdown.  We’re not only calm, we’re laughing.  We’re just systematically pointing out to the world that you, and your associates, are liars.  The entire planet is now aware of that.  The internet is forever. All the lies, and the stalking, pretend or otherwise, cannot change that.

Remember this, Thomas Mix, regarding the false claim that Jeanette was a convicted felon?

they don't care if its true

“She must think I care if it’s true or not.”

Yeah, you’re the trusted source of information now, aren’t you Thomas Mix?  You haven’t cared about anything being true or not, have you?

So then, what’s the point of all of this?  There are several.

1.  The #FreeKate supporters, in their efforts to engage in shutuppery, are only drawing more attention to themselves.  They are blissfully unaware of the Streisand Effect.

2.  Since they are engaging in standard liberal intimidation tactics, a Conservative blogger is almost obligated to point it out.  The more these tactics are exposed, the less effective they are.

3.  Since we have exposed Kaitlyn Hunt as a liar, and Kelley Hunt Smith for opposing homosexuality before she was for it, and that Detective Shepherd found no anti-gay bias in his investigation, and that Kaitlyn Hunt used threats to control her victim, the #FreeKate supporters have to smear the woman that filled out the paperwork .  In other words, it’s a rousing game of Accuse the Accusers.  They can’t counter, or disprove a single fact that was included in the FOIA the we acquired regarding Kaitlyn Hunt.  So, they have to lie.  And guess what? They are going to continue lying-because that is what liars do.

4.  They are really poor liars.  And for IRL stalking, they failed miserably.

In the end, the only reason that I’m still covering this story is that the supporters keep lying and stalking people.  Or pretending to stalk people, or something like that.  Their lies and actions are keeping this story alive.  They make themselves newsworthy by harassing others, but then complain when that is pointed out.

And, we’ll be right here to continue displaying it for the world to see.

Oh, and how’s that bullying working out for you?

Note:  The Conservative Hideout and it’s contributors do not recommend contacting any of these people.  I condemn any attempt to harass, “dox,” or otherwise harm another human being.  We deal in truth here, we’ll leave the lies and harassment to the #FreeKate supporters.  That will not, however, prevent us from exposing their lies and bully tactics. 

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@JanaEschbach Interviews Smith Family Regarding #FreeKate Revelations, Supporters Still Trying Silence Truth Tellers

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Alleged Sex Offender Kaitlyn Hunt in Court

Jana Eschbach, reporter from CBS12, interviewed the Smith family regarding the new #FreeKate information that has been revealed at the Conservative Hideout, The Other McCain, The American Spectator, and Viral Read.  When Jeanette Runyon filed her FOIA request, she enabled this new information to be discussed at all levels of the media.  Here are some excerpts from the CBS12 interview…

Tonight in this CBS 12 exclusive, the victim’s family in this case separates the truth from the rumors.
 
The rumor: The Smiths turned Kate Hunt into police when she turned 18 because she had a gay relationship with their daughter.
With that accusation, Laurie and Jim Smith say they were harassed by phone and emails, threatened, and hated. People called them “gay-haters.” But they took the hits, they say to protect their then 14 year old daughter.
“I don’t think she understands that and I don’t know she ever until she becomes a mother.” said Laurie Smith, trying to describe the scrutiny and pressure on her family as the case caught fire in the media.
 
The truth: New documents released show Kate promised to end the relationship months before her arrest.
Confronted in emails by the Smith’s niece, Shanne Reason, Kate Hunt admits “I know I am 18 and I can get in trouble, but I understand the consequences.”
Kate promised to end it.
That’s not the story her “Stop the Hate Free Kate” movement told the media.
 
“I feel good knowing that they know, I didn’t lie.” Laurie said.

Please go and read the rest.  There is video at the site, and it could not be embedded.

Now, local media are reporting the truth about Kaitlyn Hunt and the #FreeKate supporters.

If you would like to see @ABC2020, the Today Show and @TCPalm update their stories as well, kindly contact them.  Here are links to the latest posts that expose the #FeeeKate lies…

#FreeKate Update: New Information Proves that Kaitlyn Hunt Knew That Her Relationship was Illegal, and That She Was Warned to End it

#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family Claims Anti-gay Bias, Police Investigation Finds None-Kelley Hunt Smith Engages in it?

#FreeKate Update: Victim Tried to Break Off Relationship, Kaitlyn Hunt ‘Wouldn’t Let Her,’ Described to Have ‘Problem With Lying’

Cbs 12 Exclusive: Kate Hunt’s Former Girlfriend’s Family Reacts to Her Sentence

And, of course, #FreeKate supporters are still lying in order  to ban people that tell the truth…

Mix still lyingSadly, anyone on the planet is able to see that Mr. Mix only seeks to silence the truth about #FreeKate.  By using false spam reports in an effort to silence people that tell the truth, he only harm’s his own cause.  His own actions speak to his motivations.   His bully tactics continue to backfire, yet that’s all he has to counter the truth.

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#FreeKate Update: Victim Tried to Break Off Relationship, Kaitlyn Hunt ‘Wouldn’t Let Her,’ Described to Have ‘Problem With Lying’

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For the latest post in our series based on the information acquired via a FOIA request filed by Jeanette Runyon, we take a look into the nature of Kaitlyn Hunt’s relationship with her victim.  It seems that the victim tried to break off the relationship, but Kaitlyn wasn’t willing to do that.  I will be quoting two sources; Detective Shepherd’s report, and the text messages exchanged between Kelly Hunt Smith, and her daughter’s victim.  Please note that since the victim is a minor,  I will minimize the input from her part of the conversation to protect her from undo scrutiny, as well as from retaliation from the Hunts, or their supporters.

In essence, from two sources, we find that the victim tried to break off the relationship at some time prior to January 9, 2013, and Kaitlyn Hunt threatened to openly disclose that the victim was a lesbian.  Note that this come over one month before the arrest of Kaitlyn Hunt.  First, here is a screen capture from Detective Shepherd regarding a talk he had with the Captain of the Basketball team…

investigation no gay bias5

As you can see, the victim (indicated by her initials, C.S.) was reported as trying to break off the relationship.

Kiandrea told me that C.S. told her she attempted at one point to break it off with Kaitlyn.  However, Kaitlyn would not let her. Kaitlyn threatened to tell people about her sexual orientation.

Now, here are a serious screencaptures of the January 9, 2013 conversation between Kelley Hunt Smith, and the victim of her daughter…

cs tried to leave

khs victim 10

khs victim 10

What do U mean? Uve tried to break it off with her, and she wouldn’t let u? Kelley Hunt Smith

She threatened to put all the stuff we had out.  So. Like I’m not with all that. The victim of Kaitlyn Hunt

In this interaction, Kelley Hunt Smith does provide the victim with more information about her daughter…

kate lies

kate lies 2

Sweetie I hate to tell u this, but Kate has some issues, especially with lying.

Kate knows I have my concerns with it. You are very young. I don’t know if your parents and an family knew about this or approved, which obviously they don’t. 

I think what we are starting to see is that a young and vulnerable teen was taken in by an adult that has, “some issues, especially with lying.”  When the younger teen tried to break off the relationship, the adult threatened to make known that the young girl was a lesbian.

And what else did Kelley Hunt Smith think of the relationship between Kaitlyn and the victim?

cant understand what love is

Ur both young and at your age can’t understand what love is.

Just to add to the argument, let’s review some of the information that was uncovered in the Notification of Violation of Pretrial Release…

“Keep the f*ck quiet.”

“if my mom finds out we’re talking, I’m blaming it on you.”

“F*ck you…You’re stupid…you want me to go to jail…you’re such a messed up person…you snitched on me.

Kaitlyn Hunt, to her victim.

Does this not run completely counter the the assertion of #FreeKate supporters, like Rachael Carson Zerbe, who claimed that this was nothing more than a “loving relationship” between “peers?” Does “love” mean threatening to “out” someone if they leave a relationship?  Does it mean sending verbally abusive texts?  Or, was this an exploitative relationship, based on lies and threats?  I think the evidence, and the reaction Kelley Hunt Smith, would suggest that.

But there is more…

cant understand what love is2

 

Not to mention that your both very young to label yourselves sexually.  U may grow up to date guys, get married, and have kids. If u truly feel that you bi or a lesbian those are thoughts and feelings u should share with your parents.

Does this sound like a parent that was ready to go to war over this being “anti-gay bias?”   It seems that she believes that they are not set in their sexuality.

But was the victim a lesbian at all?

I don't like girls

 

 But, what I’ve tried to teach her is that lying always leads to something bad.  Kelley Hunt Smith

smh & this is.  I’m so sorry  I don’t like girls.  I guess I got wrapped up in Kate & what she would say.  Aha. Wow. yeah.  Victim of Kaitlyn Hunt

Once again, I think that we are seeing a very young girl who fell victim to manipulation at the hands of an adult.  She indicated in the above comment, as well as in another (unpublished one), that she isn’t a lesbian.   However, we see that Kaitlyn hunt was able to manipulate her into at least acting like one.

And, But, what I’ve tried to teach her is that lying always leads to something bad. could be an epitaph for this entire case.

For me, this interaction very strongly suggests that Kaitlyn Hunt was engaged in  a verbally abusive and manipulative relationship with a young teen.  The young teen was confused and easily manipulated by the older, more savvy adult, who in the words of her own mother, had problems with lying.

It also raises the question of what happened to the Kelley Hunt Smith, who in this entire interaction, was rather nurturing to the young victim?  Why did she go from being supportive and kind to this?

James and Laurie Smith wouldn’t give up. They were out to destroy my daughter, they feel like my daughter “made” their daughter gay. They are bigoted, religious [zealots] that see being gay as a sin and wrong, and they blame my daughter. Of course I see it 100% different. I don’t see or label these girls as gay. They are teenagers in high school experimenting with their sexuality, all teens do it in one form or another. They are teens, its healthy and normal. And even if their daughter is gay, who cares, she is still their daughter. (Emphasis added)

And why does Kelley Hunt Smith talk about the victim being “gay” when the victim herself told her that she was not?  Why did Kelley Hunt Smith go from indicating that they were too young to label themselves sexually, to stating that the young victim was gay?

The questions are starting to get a bit numerous, aren’t they?

In a sense, this post does leave us with  a number of unanswered questions.  However, it does show us that the relationship between Kaitlyn Hunt and her victim was abusive and controlling, and when the victim tried to leave, Kaitlyn Hunt threatened to “tell people” about her “sexual orientation.” And, if homosexual behavior is, in the words of Kelley Hunt Smith, “healthy and normal,” why did her daughter threaten her young victim with exposing that very “healthy and normal” behavior?  Why the inconsistency?  Or was it just a case of an adult using power and control to manipulate a young teen into staying in a relationship?  You can be the judge of that.

While we know more, I have a hunch that this is only the tip of the iceberg.  But, unless other legal developments come about, we will likely not know.  What we are left with is a traumatized victim and family, whose only desire was to protect their young daughter from an adult that wouldn’t let go.

For now, this is the last post regarding the information obtained in the FOIA request filed by Jeanette Runyon.   As always, should something newsworthy, such as more harassment, arrests, bullying, “pretend IRL stalking,” new evidence emerges, or legal developments occur, we will revisit the case.   In other words, this story is alive as the Hunts and their supporters make it.

Also, I will make the same offer that the website Support Honesty makes.  If there is any kind of actual documentation that proves anything in these last three posts incorrect, I will happily post it to correct the public record.  However, “documentation” means actual documentation, not, “because I said so.”

As always, we need to thank Jeanette Runyon, who has born the brunt of much abuse at the hands of #FreeKate supporters.  From openly plotting to get her banned from Twitter via false spam reports, to one even pretending to stalk her IRL, Jeanette came through under pressure.  Also, we need to thank Robert Stacy McCain, of The Other McCain, whose extensive Twitter readership, his blog, Viral Read, and an American Spectator post all supported the release of this information.  We also need to acknowledge the Smith family, that dug in and stayed the course for the sake of their daughter.  There are a host of other bloggers and individuals to thank and acknowledge, and I will do that in a future post.

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#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family Claims Anti-gay Bias, Police Investigation Finds None-Kelley Hunt Smith Engages in it?

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Alleged Sex Offender Kaitlyn Hunt in Court

From the earliest days of the #FreeKate story, the Hunt family had claimed that ant-gay bias was the reason for the arrest of their daughter.  Their claim was that the Smiths (the parents of Kaitlyn Hunt’s victim) had told school staff that they were upset that Kaitlyn Hunt had “made” their daughter gay, and that was unacceptable to them.   However, the police investigation was unable to find anyone who heard that.  Here are some excerpts from Detective Shepherd’s report…

investigation no gay biasinvestigation no gay bias 2

 

investigation no gay bias 3

investigation no gay bias 4

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“…has never heard them make any anti-gay comments and has never heard them say that Kaitlyn (Hunt) turned their daughter gay,” seems to be the lowest common denominator.

Note that others were interviewed, but did not know the Smiths.

As you can see.  Detective Shepherd asked this question quite a few times, and no one stated that they heard the Smiths making such a comment.  So, the question is, did the Smiths ever make such comments?  And, if so, to  whom?  Or, is the claim of anti-gay bias just another invention of the Hunt family in order to take the attention off of Kaitlyn’s behavior?

It is also useful to review that the Vero Beach Chapter of PFLAG found no evidence of bias…

  The Other McCain has the details…

The local chapter of Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) refuses to support accused sex offender Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt:

PFLAG of Vero Beach has received questions and comments regarding the controvery involving the two young ladies in Sebastian.
We have been watching the developments in this case since it was brought to our attention. PFLAG of Vero Beach cannot enter into the controversy for the following reason. We have not been able to find where the charges brought against this unfortunate young lady are inspired by homophobia, or are in any way anti-LGBTQ. . . .
The cry of discrimination, unless more facts come out, does not seem to apply here. Some very simple research yields cases where heterosexual kids have been arrested and prosecuted under the same law.

But, who HAS demonstrated anti-gay bias?  The FOIA information obtained by Jeanette Runyon features a text conversation between Kaitlyn Hunt’s victim, and Kelley Hunt Smith, dated January 9, 2013.  Here is a comment from Kelly Hunt Smith to her daughter’s victim…

kelley doesnt agree with gaykelley doesnt agree with gay2kelley doesnt agree with gay3

 

“I am a Christian and have faith in god, so for me, I don’t think it’s right, or what god intended.”

That comment would get any Christian branded as a “hater,” would it not?

Kelley Hunt Smith doesn’t believe that being gay is “right,” or isn’t “what god intended.”  Is that anti-gay?  She said she wanted Kaitlyn to see a counselor about it…because of issues with her father?

I told her that I didn’t feel like she was gay, and I felt like she needed to go talk to a counselor about her issues with her dad.

Was she suggesting that this “made” her daughter gay?

Kelley Hunt Smith stated that the victim was too young, and the relationship wasn’t healthy?   If she believed that, why didn’t she do more to stop a relationship she admitted was problematic?

So, this is what Kelly Hunt Smith tells the victim-that she believes in God, and that she doesn’t believe that homosexuality “is right.”  But in May, she was saying something rather different about the situation…

They were both students in the same high school, it was a mutual consenting relationship on both parts.

This was unusual for Kate, she has always dated boys, but being the kind of mother I am, I didn’t want to make it a big deal. I talked to her about it, and figured it was just a social thing, times have changed and a lot of kids are experimenting, so I didn’t make much of it.

James and Laurie Smith wouldn’t give up. They were out to destroy my daughter, they feel like my daughter “made” their daughter gay. They are bigoted, religious [zealots] that see being gay as a sin and wrong, and they blame my daughter. Of course I see it 100% different. I don’t see or label these girls as gay. They are teenagers in high school experimenting with their sexuality, all teens do it in one form or another. They are teens, its healthy and normal. And even if their daughter is gay, who cares, she is still their daughter.

Unfortunately by the letter of the law, this girl has NO voice. Her parents can play the “victims” and ruin my daughters life. We have written letters through our attorneys trying to appeal to these people as parents, talk through it and come to some agreement or understanding but James and Laurie Smith refuse. These people’s delusional stand, their hate and bigotry is tearing our daughter apart.

Note the VERY different tone between January and May?  Kelley Hunt Smith contradicts what she said to the victim, and them attacks the Smiths, for having the same beliefs that she stated having in January?

Once again, we see some glaring differences between what Kelley Hunt Smith says, and what Kelley Hunt Smith says.  The question is, when was she lying, or was she lying at both times?

Tomorrow, we will take a look into the relationship between Kaitlyn Hunt and her victim, and have some more revealing comments from her mother.

Once again, we need to extend our thanks to Jeanette Runyon, who braved being banned by on Twitter by a handful of #FreeKate supporters, who have even pretended to stalk her in real life.  And while her attackers knowingly spread lies about her, she was busy obtaining the factual information that you have seen in the posts over the last two days.

 NOTE:  As the police investigation noted, two coaches indicated that Kaitlyn Hunt was NOT on the basketball team, and had not made the team.  She was permitted to work out with the team, but was told to stop due to “drama.”

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#FreeKate Update: New Information Proves that Kaitlyn Hunt Knew That Her Relationship was Illegal, and That She Was Warned to End it

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The news on the #FreeKate front has been sparse lately.  Other than a handful of #FreeKate supporters openly conspiring to get Jeanette Runyon banned from Twitter via false spam reports, there hasn’t been much about the case itself.  But, while @NicoleBonnett1 was pretending to stalk the Twitter Gulag inhabitant (plus her disabled veteran husband, her community, and her church) in real life, Jeanette was working on the case.  She had the thought to file a Freedom of Information Act Request with the IRC Sheriff’s Office.  That information arrived this past Friday.   Jeanette received over 300 pages of materials on the case.  Much of that information directly contradicts the claims of the Hunt family, and their supporters. Over the next several days, The Other McCain, and the Conservative Hideout, will be pointing out those blatant contradictions.

For today’s contradiction, or correction, that is, we have to revisit the claims that Kaitlyn Hunt did not know that her relationship with her victim was illegal, and they claim that she was never warned to end the relationship.  Here is an interview in which Kaitlyn Hunt denied knowing that she was aware that the relationship was illegal.

The claim that Kaitlyn Hunt was unaware of the illegal nature of the relationship with her victim was repeated in the 20/20 interview in early October as well.

However, information obtained from the IRC Sheriff’s Office via the FOIA Request filed by Jeanette Runyon definitely contradicts the claims of ignorance made by Kaitlyn Hunt.  The following screen-captures are from the police file, and features a Facebook chat between Kaitlyn Hunt, and a cousin of the victim…

Kaitlyn knew was warnedKaitlyn knew was warned 2Kaitlyn knew was warned 3

Note that I made the last capture wide enough to show the date of the conversation, which was January 9th.  I also, overlapped the conversation to make sure that nothing was left out.  And, if you read the first entry by Kaitlyn Hunt, you see that she fully acknowledges that she could get into trouble for her relationship with her victim.  So why then, did Kaitlyn Hunt state, to a national TV audience, that she did not know that the relationship was problematic?

Also, why did the Hunt family state that Kaitlyn was never warned to end the relationship, when this conversation obviously happened?  Also, I have to ask why Julia Graves, Kaitlyn Hunt’s lawyer, allow her client to lie on national TV?  Surely they were aware of this exchange, as it was in the police file?   Or, was it that they thought that this exchange would never see the light of day?  No matter which way you slice it, Kaitlyn Hunt knowingly and intentionally lied on national television.

Over the coming days, more and more information will be coming out about the case.  It is our intention to set the record straight and correct the false narrative set by the Hunts and their supporters.

Oh, and to @NicoleBennett1, @Periabo, Rachael Carson Zerbe, and crew; no amount of fake spam reports, making up crazy claims about people, false police reports, or PRETENDING to stalk people IRL will prevent this information from getting out.  While you were busy lying about Jeanette, she was busy exposing the lies.  This post is only the beginning.

How are all of your bullying tactics working out for you?

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UPDATE:  Also, #FreeKate Supporters are keeping it classy in the comments at The Other McCain…

Documents Prove Kaitlyn Hunt Lied; Knew Sex With 14-Year-Old Was Illegal _ The Other McCain - 2013-11-24_23.16.30

However, the would be stalkers have, as I indicated earlier, have only PRETENDED to stalk Jeanette, and her disabled veteran husband, her community, as well as her church.

Here is some content from The Other McCain…

BOOM:

Florida sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt, whose case became a cause for many gay rights activists this year, was aware that her affair with a 14-year-old was illegal, documents obtained from the Indian River County Sheriff’s Office show.
“Yes, I know I’m 18 and can get in trouble,” Hunt said in an online conversation more than a month before her February arrest, “but I understand the consequences and I know what I got myself into when I entered the relationship with [the underage girl].”
Hunt, who last month pleaded no contest to multiple felony charges in the case, has claimed in media interviews that she did not realize her involvement with the minor was a crime in Florida, where the legal age of consent is 16. “I wouldn’t have continued, if I really knew what the laws were and if I knew what I was getting myself into,” Hunt told ABC’s Matt Gutman in an interview broadcast on the network’s 20/20 program. . .

Blatant lies blatantly exposed.

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#FreeKate Supporters Continue to Lie in Order to Ban Those That Expose Them, Display Anti-Christian Hatred

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If you want to see the extent to which people will lie to censor those that have exposed their own public comments, you have to look no farther than a small group of #FreeKate supporters.  You see, they are targeting Jeanette Runyon because she has tirelessly exposed their desire to legalize adult minor sex, as well as the fact that they were admittedly lying about Jeanette being convicted of “human trafficking,”  Both myself and Stacy McCain have covered this…

#FreeKate Update: Supporters Lie to Censor Those That Quote Them-Shutuppery in Action!

Relentless Perversity: #FreeKate Freaks Attempt to Silence Courageous Critics

To Tolerance of Intolerance, and Why Pointing That Out is a ‘Crime’

How Dare You Quote Me, Haters?!’

Well, like most people that lack morals or ethics, they haven’t thought to realize that untold numbers of people across the US and around the world are now aware of their activities, including Twitter Support.  And, they obviously haven’t realized that this runs counter of their efforts to silence Jeanette for pointing out their multitudes of lies and desire to legalize jail bait.  Nope, being would-be internet bullies, they never learn, and do what they know-they double-down on the stupid.  Here are some screen captures, because as well all know, quoting someone’s public statements is  “harassment and stalking,” right?

still reportedng JeanetteQuoting =harassment, proving that they lied, even worse!

Then one, “Katie” Murphy, took the lying to Facebook, because the only solution to being caught lying is to remove the evidence, right?

katie complained about thisBecause her own quotes are, “graphic violence,” right?

katie complained

You see, there are no lengths to which they will go in order to lie.  They want Jeannette to STFU, and they’ll pretty much say anything to make it happen, including harassing her husband, who is a disabled vet, and is not even on social media.

katie harassing hubIf you recall, instead of stating their case, #FreeKate admins dug up “dirt” on the victim’s mother, and the detective investigating the case.  Here, rather than simply stop lying, these supporters are doing the same thing to Jeanette’s husband, who is a retired, disabled veteran.  And, Jeanette has informed me that her husband was never arrested.  So, it is clear that what they cannot find, they will invent.

Here is more…

tracking hubbyWe’ll discuss the DVD’s at a later time, it will be interesting, and fun.   Note the indications that they are going to harass Jeanette’s husband in every potential setting that they can find?  But we’re the stalkers for quoting them, right?

Now, when these people aren’t supporting the effort to legalize jailbait, lying about Jeanette, and their effort to silence her by harassing her retired, disabled veteran husband, they engage in some religious hatred as well.

chrsitians are molesters“In with the molesters?”

Interestingly enough, it is far more statistically likely for a child to be molested in a school  than a church.  Just like the victim of Kaitlyn Hunt!  Make no sudden moves, and allow the irony to sweep over you.  It doesn’t get much more powerful than that.

As usual, we are dealing with people that completely lack morals.  When their public statements are brought to light, they engage in the usual leftist tactics of “digging up dirt,’ and inventing it when they cannot find it.  Then, they proclaim their detractors to be “stalkers,” and  engage in a pattern of lies and harassment against them.  In other words, they engage in projection, doing all the things that they accuse their critics of, and more.

Sadly for them, their ongoing efforts only draw more and more attention to themselves, limiting their effectiveness.

In the end, liars hate the truth, and when confronted with it, they attack those that present that truth.

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#FreeKate Update: Supporters Lie to Censor Those That Quote Them-Shutuppery in Action!

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Something that most Americans hate is censorship.  Freedom of speech is a cornerstone of our Republic  It allows even people that advocate legalizing statutory rape to have a voice.  However, it does not allow for defamation.  A couple days ago, I covered that some #FreeKate supporters were openly and admittedly using false information to smear Jeanette Runyon.  Jeanette’s “crime” was to post their public comments that showed that they were lying about her being involved in “human trafficking.”

  I will go into the fact the “katers” defaming Jeanette Runyon have been thoroughly exposed as rather infamous liars, yet they continue to double down on their lies, even though they KNOW they are lying.  Here are some examples…

lies about jeanetteJeanette tells us that this is a lie, willingly and intentionally told. 

lies about Jeanette repeatedRepetition makes it true, right?

they don't care if its trueThey don’t care if it’s true or not.

mattingly glad someone made it upMr. Mattingly is glad that someone made up the false information about Jeanette?

And finally, what do you do when someone keeps on pointing out that you openly support legalizing adult-minor sex?

lie about spamYou lie about spam in the hopes that they get time in the Twitter Gulag.

So, as you can see, when lying about someone doesn’t get them to shut up, you try to get others to shut them up.

And, they did exactly as they said they would.  They reported Jeanette as spam, and her Twitter accounts were suspended.  Sadly, she needed extra accounts, as her previous ones were suspended by #Freekate supporters to stop her from discussing the facts of the Kailtyn Hunt case.

Here are more screen-captures…

FireShot Screen Capture #065 - 'Twitter _ RealJeanetteR_ @rsmccain @MrEvilMatt ___' - censorshiopTranslation:

How dare you describe our attempts to defame Jeanette Runyon into silence!

The only problem these people have is a rather big one.  The more they do this, the more people pay attention.  They more they lie in order to ban people, the more people are going to discuss it.  People hate censorship, and will point it out where it happens…lots of people.

So, why don’t you ask @support why @nicolebonnet1, @Periabo, @jhnmattingly09 and crew are able to intentionally post defamatory information, and the lie about spam to get someone suspended for pointing that out?  You also  might want to point out that at least some of those people openly want to legalize adult-minor sex as well.

To our spam happy liars, I can only say this; do your worst, you have a national audience that will see every false claim you make.  Every lie you tell will be documented for the planet to see.  Enjoy your fail.

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To Tolerance of Intolerance, and Why Pointing That Out is a ‘Crime’

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Stacy McCain nails it tonight, when he writes about how the our “champions of tolerance” simply cannot bring themselves to tolerate any opinion that deviates from their own…

There is a phenomenon on the Left — especially among academics and other “intellectual” types, including feminists — where they become so used to living within cocoons of like-minded sympathizers that they don’t realize how weird their ideas seem to normal people. And so, when somebody outside the cocoon takes notice and quotes their deranged gibberish, these people claim victimhood: Those right-wing [sexists, homophobes, racists, Koch-funded Rethuglicans, whatever] are [harassing, libeling, slut-shaming, whatever] me!

You can ask Jeanette Runyon how she has actually been reported to the police for the alleged crime of quoting some of the “Free Kate” weirdos who want to legalize sex with 14-year-olds.

See, the Left has spent so long preaching the rhetoric of “rights” that some of them have begun to believe their own propaganda, so that merely disagreeing with them makes you a criminal.

I could go into a million directions here.  For example, we could go on for some time about my observation that leftist ideology is so narrow in it’s definitions that they often look completely idiotic while trying to stuff every single world event into their victim narrative.   I will go into the fact the “katers” defaming Jeanette Runyon have been thoroughly exposed as rather infamous liars, yet they continue to double down on their lies, even though they KNOW they are lying.  Here are some examples…

lies about jeanetteJeanette tells us that this is a lie, willingly and intentionally told. 

lies about Jeanette repeatedRepetition makes it true, right?

they don't care if its trueThey don’t care if it’s true or not.

mattingly glad someone made it upMr. Mattingly is glad that someone made up the false information about Jeanette?

And finally, what do you do when someone keeps on pointing out that you openly support legalizing adult-minor sex?

lie about spamYou lie about spam in the hopes that they get time in the Twitter Gulag.

So, as you can see, when lying about someone doesn’t get them to shut up, you try to get others to shut them up.

Of course, there is a lot more to that story as well.

This entire exchange about Jeanette’s “record,” and it’s use by the “katers,” reminds me of something that Matt Forney wrote referenced in his post, The Rabbits Go to War; or, How Your Haters Will Try to Destroy You

Scientific studies have repeatedly shown that leftists have underdeveloped amygdalae compared to conservatives, the reason why they are r-selected. The amygdala is the part of the brain responsible for keeping you alive by forcing you to react to stimuli that might be dangerous (such as an animal trying to eat you). Amygdala damage prevents liberals from properly assessing danger, causing them to react and overreact to the wrong stimuli (and fail to react to the proper ones):

In my experiences with Narcissists, their amygdala is so sensitive to anxiety, that just telling them any information which bothers them sets it off like a nuclear bomb, forcing them into an immediate state of denial of the offending stimuli, to try and short-circuit the “brain pain.” Tell a Narcissist something he doesn’t want to hear, and it is like spraying pepper spray from a fire extinguisher into his face. He won’t listen to the entire idea, consider it, and then reject it, like we would. Instead, the Narcissist will begin to get the faintest whiff of what you are saying, identify it as bad, and then he will close his eyes, hide his head, and wave his arms while screaming, until you are finished.

This is the heart of why feminists and leftists are so weak, so panicky, so incapable of handling dissent or debate. Because they can’t tell the difference between a deke-out and the real deal, they treat them both with the same amount of gravity. The reason why feminists get so angry over “rape culture,” for example, is not because they care for victims of rape, but because their malfunctioning amygdalae regards any stimulus that is perceived to be rape-related as equivalent to an actual rape.

If you take a look at Forney’s post, it is quite spot-on.  In essence, the haters are wimps that have to gang up on someone, because in their own, “special snowflake” reality, they are the “good guys.”    Their world view is so twisted, that they think any opposition, and especially quoting them, is a vicious and brutal attack.  However, that same world view limits them to defining themselves as victims  so we get treated to this lie-fest.   Then, you see the victim-hood kick in fully, especially if you quote them and mention their openly stated intentions (How dare you describe my attempts to intimidate you into silence!).

And when the lies fail, they have to find other ways to make the truth stop.  That’s when you see the false police reports, the “monitoring” of people that point out that their openly stated goal is to make it legal for adults to have sex with minors.  They have to make truth go away, no matter how many lies they have to tell. Reality is their enemy, and they have target anyone who expresses it.

Oh, and they fail at it too.

Because, you know, tolerance!

And, just a final thought:  Since I quoted public their statements, I will be accused of harassment, stalking, or something, because even when they are stalking and lying about others, they are still the victims, mmkay?

As a reminder, I don’t recommend contacting, harassing, threatening, doxing, or otherwise molesting these poor “special snowflakes.” They might cry.

Linked at Doug Ross, Thanks Doug!

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#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family and Supporters Escalate Threats Against Truth Tellers

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Have I mentioned that I’d really like to give the #FreeKate stuff a break?  However, they keep doing and saying things that I need to document here.  Why, might you ask?  I love making connections between stories, and the tactics used  by the subjects of those stories.  #FreeKate is an incredible opportunity to take a look at these tactics, and display them to the world.  When people know and can identify the tactics, they can be countered. So, here is the latest.

A couple weeks ago, my pastor and I were discussing a recent sermon.  The gist was that people have “default” behaviors to which they are accustomed to using.  And, once one is saved, and dedicated their life to Christ, they have to take care and make sure they don’t slide back into potentially destructive “default” behaviors, because that’s what they always have done.  That closely matches my observation that people always do what they are used to doing, especially when under stress.  This is why drinkers drink, druggies drug, and bullies bully, among others.  People will find security in what they know, even if it has negative long term results, or if it actually doesn’t work at all.  It’s human nature.  Conversely, and thankfully. most people find more constructive ways to solve their problems, like working, being honest, having dignity, and working towards solutions.  I once read that most millionaires had been millionaires before, had lost it all, and built it back up again.  Obviously, these folks have very constructive “default behaviors.”

Now, imagine you are one of the Hunts, or a supporter of #FreeKate.  Most of the locals are afraid of you, so they don’t get any ideas about speaking out.  The Smiths were threatened repeatedly, and have stayed mostly silent.    The #FreeKate crowd dug up “dirt” on Laure Smith, and Detective Shepherd.  Rachael Carson Zerbe publicly posted the information regarding Detective Shepherd on Twitter. They lied on the Change.org petition.  The MSM, at least at first, bought their lies that this was a case of “bias.”  Kelley Hunt Smith instructed the victim to “delete everything.”  Kaitlyn Hunt instructed the victim to lie for her.  And after that, they began a large fundraising campaign.  Their tactics, at least to them, seemed to be working quite well.

In decades past, this would have worked.  Without social media, the MSM would have only heard the Hunts, and the rest of the world would have only heard the MSM.  There would be no defense against the Hunts, nor would there be refuge for anyone that spoke out.   It would have likely stayed local, or at least, the commentary would have.  In all probability, this would have gone a lot better for them, and maybe the could have pressured the victims family, or the court, to drop the case altogether.  They would have controlled the narrative.

But, this is the 21st century, and I think the epitaph of this story is going to be…

We would have gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for those meddling bloggers!

And not just bloggers, but people like Twitter-warrior Jeanette Runyon, who has had false police reports filed against her.  One was to the wrong jurisdiction, and the other had an incorrect phone number on it, but it’s OK, they were trying!  The Twitter presence of truth tellers is impressive, but also the person who runs Support Honesty.  Another character in the cast, is “Matt Doe.” Using social media anonymously, he has been a consistent thorn in #FreeKate’s side, reaching out to supporters with information, and causing dissent in their ranks.  Needless to say, the #FreeKate crowd is interested in finding the identities of both individuals.  After all, one cannot be harassed or threatened if one’s identity is hidden?

From the beginning, the Hunts made this a national news story-going on Today, MSNBC, and CNN, and in so doing, they brought it to the attention of people that not only actively resist bullying tactics, but point them out as a means to educate the public.  So, people like Robert Stacy McCain, myself, and others, have taken to this story to counter the lies told via #FreeKate, and give a voice to those that would speak out, but cannot due to fears for their personal or financial security.

This is where the “default behavior” kicks in.  As the Hunts and their supporters lost control of their narrative, and the truth was getting out, they began lashing out in every increasing scale.  #FreeKate supporters, with the approval of Steven Hunt, conspired to take down The Other McCain.  One supporter stated that she reported me to the police for quoting her.  And, as we have discussed  Jeanette Runyon has been falsely reported, by inept and incompetent #FreeKate supporters.  And, as we documented the other day, there have been death threats made, and threats to ruin people “professionally.”  However, none of that has prevented any of us from stating the facts of the case, or examining the actions of #FreeKate.

As we can see, when the “default” behavior does not work, an individual might “double down,” on that behavior.  A drinker may go on a binge, and a bully might escalate their tactics in the hope that their targets come into line, and do as the bully pleases.  Instead of putting the square peg in the square hole, the bully will try to pound it into the round hole.

That has continued today.  If you recall my post from the other day,  my source noted that false accusations will be made, outlandish ones if needed.  I suggested that this is a means to keep truth tellers on the defensive, by making them defend themselves, rather than discussing the facts of something.  Here are two wild accusations…

rcz jeanette threatened smithsRachael Carson Zerbe accusing Jeanette Runyon of making the televised death threat against he Smith family.

RCZ Call staged And, she states that the death threats against the Smith family were staged.

Of course, quoting Rachael’s public comments is considered to be “cyberstalking.” 

Then, besides some strange and outlandish claims, there are increasing threats…

sateve wants addressSteven Hunt trying to track down the address of a truth teller.

Please note that in the world of #FreeKate, tracking down a person’s personal address is NOT stalking.  One is only guilty of stalking if one quotes the public statements of a supporter or a member of the Hunt family.-Matt

tracking McCain

This screencapture was modified before I received it.  They are claiming to be “investigating,” and “tracking” Robert Stacy McCain.  Sadly, it seems they are tracking McCain’s son, who is at Fort Bragg. However, given the training he is receiving there, none of us fear for his safety.

But remember kids, it’s only stalking if one quotes a Hunt family member, or a supporter.  Actually tracking someone’s personal information is most definitely NOT stalking. -Matt

cease and desist

Apparently, it didn’t work. 

As the source of my recent post indicated, when all else fails, the bullies, (or rabbits as he noted) will try to enlist law enforcement in their efforts to silence of punish others.  And, when combined with making up outlandish claims, they aren’t afraid to lie about the details. And if necessary, they will completely invent the details.  That, and they’ll play the victim, accusing others of stalking them, while they are busily stalking others.

If you recall, Robert Stacy McCain summed this up nicely…

“How dare you describe my attempt to intimidate you into silence?”

So, the Hunts and their supporters are facing an interesting quandary.  If they continue to lie, file false police reports, or even continue making threats (of death and otherwise), they will eventually get arrested or sued for something.   But, on the other hand, since we know their tactics, we are continuing to speak the truth, and they cannot silence us.  It can’t be an easy position in which to find oneself.  Then again, had they not lied, made threats, hired a PR firm, went to the national media, falsely tried to make this a gay rights issue, acted so thuggishly towards detractors (or even supporters who questioned the narrative), openly advocated to legalize sex between adults and minors, or any of the other things that caused people to rightfully ask questions about their behavior and motivations, they wouldn’t be in this mess, and their daughter would be home with them right now.

The more they try to regain control of the narrative with the use of threats and nonsense, the more negative attention that they are receiving.  And, if they manage to silence one, or more of us, it will only cause others to cover the situation.  They could quickly find themselves in the situation in which there isn’t a handful of blogs covering this, but several hundred.  That has happened before, and there is no way for them to silence hundreds of us.   Frankly, I don’t see them being able to silence any of us.

Frankly, If I were them, I would just stop.  They have their plea deal.  Their daughter is coming home for Christmas.   If Kaitlyn follows the requirements of the plea deal, she’ll have her life back.  However, if they continue to use threats and intimidation to attack anyone who disagrees with them, the more people that will be notice.  And, the cycle will continue.

Note:  The Conservative Hideout and it’s contributors do not recommend direct contact with the Hunts, or any of their supporters.  I have not emailed, phoned, texted, or  doxed anyone, and I condemn any efforts to do so, from any party.  Let’s leave the threats and intimidation to the bad guys.  We have the truth on our side.  There is no need for bullying.

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