Steven Cook, Michigan Education Association Head, Supports Convicted Child Molester Neal Erickson

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If you recall, we covered the story of Neal Erickson, as teacher who was convicted of sexually abusing a male student.  That, in and of itself was a story.  But, when other teachers came form with cries for leniency, the story got a bit more complicated.  Then, when the family’s garage was burnt down, it got more complicated still.  And now, it appears that even his Union is supporting him,  by attempting to obtain funds for him!   Steven Cook, the head of the Michigan Education Organization, has been the focal point of that effort.  FOX News attempted to interview.

Now, when you listen to the interview with the victim, you see what the supporters of Neal Erickson are behind, so to speak…

1.  Use of alcohol to gain the “cooperation” of a young teen.

2.  The use of threats to control the young victim, and gain his silence.

3. Manipulation of a sexual abuse victim.

4.  The classic pedophile/abuser claim that, “it was consensual!”

This, according to an increasing number of Americans, is OK.  From the supporters of Kaitlyn Hunt in Florida, to the supporters of Neal Erickson, these people think that adults have the right to prey upon children, and there is something wrong with the rest of us.

Welcome to the Brave New World; with some 1984 mixed in for good measure.

 

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The Year That Was: 2013, Top Stories

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I think it would be safe to say the 2013 was a very strange year. From beginning to end, it supplied the conservative blogosphere with enough controversy, insanity, and flat-out moon battery to keep both writer and reader quite busy. So, off the top of my head, here are my thoughts on some of the top stories of 2013.

 

  1. Our first story, and the one most covered here the Conservative Hideout, is ObamaCare. We predicted doom, gloom, and absolute failure for president Obama signature legislation. Let’s just say that it did not disappoint. We saw more job losses, hours being cut, plans being canceled, premiums rising higher, businesses not hiring, and so forth. Of course, our liberal friends did their very best to lie and obfuscate, but when millions are negatively impacted, it’s hard to spray little perfume over a open sewer and convince people that it is sanitary. For his part, Pres. Obama simply chose to ignore parts a law. He granted exceptions that he was not legally entitled to grant. The ignored mandates, legislating without the legislature itself. At current, he seems to of the delayed much of the pain of ObamaCare until after the 2014 midterm elections. However, the people that have been negatively impacted will not forget Pres. Obama, nor will they forget their Democratic Congress critters that foisted this nonsense upon. And, come to think of it, we are going to let them forget!
  1. In order of importance, perhaps the second most important story is the IRS’s targeting of conservative groups. Even though the media did their best to ignore it; and failing that, minimizing it, it still came to the awareness of millions of Americans. In a nutshell, the IRS, under orders from IRS HQ, intentionally and persistently targeted conservative groups. This went from additional scrutiny and intentional denial of tax exempt status. It also involved illegal data collection and distribution; for example, names of donors in their personal information. In spite of denials, the delay sand flat-out lies, the truth came out. The IRS was guilty of massive discrimination in illegal activity in their additional scrutiny, if not harassment of conservative groups. Of course, the administration denied it, and the mainstream media refuse to report it, but we were here to tell you about it!
  2. I’m rather proud that the Conservative Hideout was among the first blogs to cover ClimateGate. Our contributor, Don, got to the story early, and we stayed on it for the duration. Since then, we have covered the unraveling of global cooling global warming climate change The Big Lie. In 2013, there were no shortages of climate failure to be exposed. From the UK having a record cold winter, to 30 inches of snow on Memorial Day, to the record cold Arctic summer, to Al Gore’s doom and gloom prediction of zero Arctic sea ice falling flat, and even to the global warming expedition being caught in the ice, the “settled science” of global warming has taken more hits than a punchdrunk boxer with one glass eye. However, that hasn’t stopped the advocates from trying to force us to live in thatch huts, while Al Gore jets in comfort between his mansions.
  1. After 2013, the phrase Bomber Sues Bloggers might be a bit more familiar to you. All throughout the year, Brett Kimberlin had taken his lawfare game to all new highs (or lows, as the case may be). His latest effort has been labeled Kimberlin versus the Universe, et al. by blogger, and one of many defendants, John Hoge of Hogewash. Robert Stacy McCain, of The Other McCain, has been named as a co-defendant, but has yet to be served in the suit. I would advise you to visit The Other McCain, and check out the extensive coverage there. This entire situation is important because it shows how far people are willing to go to silence others. Brett Kimberlin is a convicted bomber, convicted perjurer, and all around really bad guy. If he is permitted to silence bloggers who did nothing more than cover his many criminal convictions, which are public knowledge, it opens up the door for every other bad guy in the world to silence people who speak the truth.
  1. And, speaking of people who want to silence those who speak the truth, we eventually have to cover the sad and strange case of Kaitlyn Hunt. For those of you that are unaware, Kaitlyn Hunt was a then 18-year-old who was caught having a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old. In almost any other case, the adult would’ve taken a plea deal, and the story would’ve never gotten off the back page of the paper. However, the family and supporters of Kaitlyn Hunt attempted to make this a gay-rights issue, and proceeded to lie about every single aspect of the case. They incorrectly stated that the perpetrator was 17, and her victim was 15. In fact, the respective ages were 18 and 14. The Hunt family also named the victim and her family; causing them to be on the receiving end of a never ending stream of harassment and death threats. Additionally, they appeared on the Today Show. They also made appearances on Good Morning America, MSNBC, and CNN. As time wore on, bloggers, such as Robert Stacy McCain and myself, began exposing the lies. Then, Kaitlyn Hunt violated the no contact order and not only exchange 20,000 text messages with her victim, she also met with the victim for additional sexual activity. She has since been released, but many think she received a plea deal that heterosexual males would not have received. Over time, the story became more about the supporters of Kaitlyn Hunt stalking people that told the truth about the case. The parallels between Kaitlyn Hunt and her supporters, and Brett Kimberlin and his supporters has not been lost on bloggers and readers alike. Whereas Kimberlin wants people to stop discussing his previous convictions, the supporters of Kaitlyn Hunt not only want people to stop telling the truth about her case, they also want to legalize sex between adults and minors. So, not only do you have the legal issues, but you also have a group of people that are being cheered by sex offenders all over the United States.
  1. With the growing public awareness of the “knockout game,” I started covering racial violence. And for almost a month, I had daily posts featuring black on white violence. It is still going on the local media covers less and less these days, so there’s not as much to report. Rather than call for retaliation, or engage in racism, we choose to look at this as a symptom, or consequence of the divisive politics of the Democratic Party. It is highly ironic that the party of the KKK, the party of Jim Crow, the party of slavery, and the party of Margaret Sanger dare call themselves friends of African-Americans. The Democratic Party has systematically attempted to destroy the black family, prevent them from being educated, and limit their numbers the abortion. Then, they blame whites in general; and specifically Republicans, or Tea Party members. We need a real racial dialogue and the station not the same old blame game played by the Democratic Party in the racism industry. So, I will continue to cover this issue.

 

So, that is my short list for the top stories of 2013. Of course, I likely for less somethings out, so feel free to tell me about it in the comment section.

 

I really hope that 2014 is a much better year than 2013 was for our nation. However, with Obama still residing in the White House, I hold little hope that 2014 will be a breakout year. It may just be that we need another president, and more importantly, a president of another political persuasion, to actually see a real recovery in this country. One thing that you can be sure of is that the Conservative Hideout will be here, come hell or high water, to cover at all. We are rapidly approaching the fifth anniversary of the Conservative Hideout. In those almost 5 years, myself and the contributors have written over 4000 posts. We have received over 20,000 comments. We’re not looking to turn our backs on what we’ve built – were going to move on and continue to tell the truth. Detractors, trolls, stalkers, sex offenders all be damned, we’re moving forward.

 

I like to wish you all a Happy New Year, and I would especially like to thank those people that have supported the Conservative Hideout over the years.

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#FreeKate Update: Stalkers Refuse to Stop Stalking

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As I have mentioned more times than I can count, I would really love the #FreeKate story to go away.  It’s become like a mosquito, buzzing in my ear, and I’m apparently all out of Off.   But, the #FreeKate supporters, like Thomas Mix, and @NicoleBonnet1, simply will not stop harassing those that have exposed the truth about the Kaitlyn Hunt.   I’m guessing that part of their effort to legalize sex between adults and minors is to punish and silence anyone who chooses to protect young teens from adults.  And, as we have seen in their persecution of Jeanette Runyon, what they cannot find, they will invent.

It was two days prior to Christmas, or Christmas Eve (at this point, I frankly forget), when Jeanette and I decided to stop making any public posts about Kaitlyn Hunt and the stalking #FreeKate supporters.  We wanted to see their reaction to silence.  The result was an impressive escalation of insults, stalking, and hate.  Just like the school-yard bully, the #FreeKate stalkers, when met with a target that refused to play along, decided to turn up the heat in order to regain their sense of control over the situation.

The Other McCain has screenshots and examples, so head over there to see more.

I have four basic points; the first is that these are typical bully tactics, and since bullies are cowards, they are claiming to be calling the FBI and having Child Protective Services investigate critics of Kaitlyn Hunt.  These are typical bully tactics, and should be noted as such.  Bullies attack and attack, and when exposed, claim to be the victim.  Then, they use their claimed victimhood as a justification to engage in even more attacks. After all, as Robert Stacy McCain has so aptly put;

“How dare you describe our efforts to intimidate you into silence!”

This has been a consistent theme.  Quoting them is hateful stalking worthy of a Nuremberg type trial.  However, doxing people, making false police reports, and generally harassing people is perfectly OK, and long as they are doing it. However, the #FreeKate stalkers should be advised that knowingly making false reports to these agencies, particularly the FBI, is illegal, and very ill advised.

My second point is that we are dealing with evil people, and evil people cheat.  These are people that want to make it legal for adults to have sex with minors (under the euphemism of an “exception”). Given that fact, ethical or moral behavior cannot be expected.  They have openly and willfully lied about Jeanette Runyon’s past.  They have openly plotted to use false reports to get Jeanette banned from Twitter, and have attempted the same on Facebook.  They have pretended to stalk her husband (who is a disabled veteran), her church, and community.  Essentially, they have no depths to which they will not go to smear and punish those that have thwarted their efforts to legalize adult minor sex, and have exposed their lies.

And for the third point, I’ll quote Robert Stacy McCain…

Evil never sleeps. Evil is active, shameless and persistent. The assault on virtue and truth continues every minute of every day, and anyone who fails to speak out against evil is thereby an accomplice.

Nothing should alarm the decent law-abiding citizen more than when the advocates of deviant criminality endeavor to silence the voices of their critics, as has happened recently in the case of “Free Kate” freaks getting @Jeanette_Runyon’s Twitter account suspended.

Do not be deceived: There is no safety in timid silence, because once these immoral monsters have silenced the strong and the brave, who will have courage to defend the timid and weak?

That is true.  There are no victims here, only combatants.  We are making a stand for the truth, and protecting children from those that molest them, as well as those that would legally facilitate that molestation.  No amount of lies, threats, fake reports, and stalking will prevent the truth from being told.

And for the fourth; the #FreeKate stalkers claim that we are “obsessed.”  Obsessed with the case, obsessed with them.   Because, apparently, we have nothing better to do with our lives.  But, they took the time (at least by their own claims) to track down people’s identities and locations, in order to (pretend or otherwise) file false claims and reports about us?  And, they did that while we were posting about other things, spending time with our families, and volunteering at our churches.  You know, because we are obsessed!

And once again, Kaitlyn Hunt is being discussed.  Sadly, she is only being discussed because her supporters refuse to stop lying and stalking people.  They are keeping the story going, and then complain when they bring more and more attention to themselves.  If only they would stop; they could move on with their lives.

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#FreeKate Update: Social Justice Advocate Calls for Federal Charges, Supporters Get FOIA, and Are Strangely Silent

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I had not planned on another #FreeKate post so soon, but there have been two developments to note.  The first is unexpected.  I received an email regarding a letter written to the Attorney General for the Southern District of Florida, Wifredo A. Ferrer, asking that a federal investigation be started into the crimes of Kaitlyn Hunt.  Here is more…

Request for Federal Investigation in Kaitlyn Hunt Case Filed with United States Attorney for Southern Florida.

Honorable Wifredo A. Ferrer Asked to Review Evidence for Violation of Federal Law Regarding Transfer of Obscene Material to Minors.

Contact: Bill Simpson, 301-339-3338, ProtectChildrenFromPredators@Gmail.Com

MIAMI, Dec. 17, 2013 /Christian Newswire/ — A letter requesting the US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida to review the evidence in the State of Florida vs Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt (Case No. 31-2013-CF-000197-A) has been filed asking for an independent, thorough and transparent investigation into a series of presumptive federal sex crimes committed against a 14 year old female Florida resident residing in Indian River County.

Kaitlyn Hunt pleaded no contest to a series of five charges resulting from a sexual relationship she had with a minor child. The plea agreement included two felonies of interference with child custody (F.S. 787.03), two counts misdemeanor battery (F.S. 784.03(1)(B)), and misdemeanor contributing to the dependency of a child (F.S. 827.04(1)).

The child victim was illegally contacted thousands of times by the defendant, Ms. Hunt, even after two separate no contact orders had been filed with the court as condition of her release from custody. This contact was made in person, through third parties, and electronically through the use of an iPod and an application called FaceTime.

“The victim in this case was sexually violated multiple times by the defendant, and those violations continued for months, long after the initial arrest of Kaitlyn Hunt,” stated social justice activist, Bill Simpson.

“It is every parent’s worst nightmare their child would be groomed by an adult for an illegal sexual relationship, not to mention the first encounter occurred in a stall in the girl’s bathroom at a public school. We should not have to worry each day when we drop our children off at school whether or not they will be sexually assaulted in a bathroom during the course of the school day,” continued Mr. Simpson.

Here is the full text of Mr. Simpson’s letter…

 

US Attorney Ferrer Letter 12-17-13 Regarding Kaitlyn Hunt by Bill Simpson


Concerned individuals might want to contact the AG, and let him know that you support this.

In the second development, two #FreeKate supporters, Thomas Mix, and Rachel Carson Zerbe, obtained the same FOIA information that we had received last month.  They claimed that they were going to show how we, “cherry picked” the information to make Kaitlyn Hunt and crew look bad.  Tonight, they are silent.  After some rather poor attempts at lying, they claimed victim-hood, and stopped posting.

Funny thing; they couldn’t post a single, solitary, anything that contradicted the data in these posts…

#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family Claims Anti-gay Bias, Police Investigation Finds None-Kelley Hunt Smith Engages in it?

#FreeKate Update: Victim Tried to Break Off Relationship, Kaitlyn Hunt ‘Wouldn’t Let Her,’ Described to Have ‘Problem With Lying’

#FreeKate Update: New Information Proves that Kaitlyn Hunt Knew That Her Relationship was Illegal, and That She Was Warned to End it

In fact, they refused to post a single thing that would contradict these posts.  Frankly, they couldn’t.  They had the exact same thing that I had posted, so it could not have been contradicted.  Of course, they aren’t concerned with the truth.  They are only concerned with their hate for people that expose their lies, not to mention making it legal for adults to have sex with minors.

I’m sure that they’ll be back with a new twist on their typical lying and bullying tactics.

And, we’ll be here to cover it.  Exposing bullying tactics to the world helps limit their effectiveness.  What they’ve done to the Smiths, the blaming of the victim, the stalking (pretend or otherwise) against people that oppose their efforts to lie; all needs to be seen, discussed, and countered.  If not, more and more sexual abuse victims, their families, and supporters, will be victimized.

Let this be the case where decent people stood up to the bullies, and made the country safer for children.

Note:  The Conservative Hideout and it’s contributors do not recommend contacting any #FreeKate supporters.  I condemn any attempt to harass, “dox,” or otherwise harm another human being.  We deal in truth here, we’ll leave the lies and harassment to the #FreeKate supporters.  That will not, however, prevent us from exposing their lies and bully tactics.

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What’s With All of the Pedophilia?

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We’ve been covering the ever expanding list of cases where adults are victimizing kids, and are left scratching our heads and wondering why? Has pedophilia always been this frequent, or is all of these stories a manifestation of something new?  For example, here are some recent cases covered at The Other McCain.

‘Hundreds of Videos Depicting Underage Boys … in Sexually Explicit Conduct’

Cravers of Boy-Flesh: Yet Another Sad Example of a Disturbing Trend

Michigan Union: Teachers Still Have a Right to Benefits After Boning Teenagers

‘Teacher of the Year’ Learns a Tough Lesson: Always Take the Plea Bargain

And those are only the posts over the last several days.  Even more disturbing is the fact that so many from the political and cultural left are all too willing to defend, explain away, or justify these crimes against children. For example, we saw professional colleagues defending Neil Erickson, a teacher convicted of having sexual contact with a 14-year-old male student. And, of course, regular readers will know that there are quite a few supporters of Kaitlyn Hunt; an adult who recently plead guilty to having sexual contact with a 14-year-old high school freshman. Her family and supporters not only want to make this legal, but they have led a campaign of lies, threats, intimidation, and general harassment against anyone who opposes them. In the Ericsson case, the garage owned by the family of the victim was burned to the ground, and threats were painted on the side of the family home. Going back to the case of Kaitlyn Hunt, the family of her victim were subjected to harassment, death threats, and Hunt supporters even try to “dig up dirt” on the victim’s mother.

Here is a sampling of posts from the Conservative Hideout regarding the stories.

@JanaEschbach Interviews Smith Family Regarding #FreeKate Revelations, Supporters Still Trying Silence Truth Tellers

#FreeKate Supporters Continue to Lie in Order to Ban Those That Expose Them, Display Anti-Christian Hatred

#FreeKate Update: Supporters Lie to Censor Those That Quote Them-Shutuppery in Action!

#FreeKate Update: Some Supporters Think Nine Year Olds Ready for Sex?

#FreeKate and Normalizing Pedophilia

#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family and Supporters Escalate Threats Against Truth Tellers

#FreeKate Update: Steven Hunt Makes Death Threats, Kelley Hunt Smith Threatens to ‘Ruin” People

#FreeKate Update: Increasing Threats, False Accusations, and Rabbit Mentality

Bullying and #FreeKate: Playing the Victim

For me, I see this as a lack of morality. For decades now, we have been pushing moral and religious teachings out of our public conversation. We systematically banned prayer, and mentions of Christmas, with some schools even banning the colors red and green Christmas time – all to marginalize Christianity, and more importantly, God. The results seem obvious; without moral teaching, our people lack morals. without a moral center, people justify all sorts of behavior. And at this point, the next frontier of ” progress,” is the legalization of sex with children. As the Bible has predicted, we are living in a world where what is good is evil, and what is evil is good.

And, it’s only going to get worse from here.

Note: The American Psychiatric Association has historically stated that there needs to be a five-year difference in age between perpetrator and victim to be a case of pedophilia.  Kaitlyn Hunt was 18, and her victim was 14 at the time her crimes took place. She’s included in the story because her family and supporters have openly stated the objective of legalizing sex between adults and minors. I believe this to be an incremental step towards the normalization and legalization of pedophilia.

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@JanaEschbach Interviews Smith Family Regarding #FreeKate Revelations, Supporters Still Trying Silence Truth Tellers

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Alleged Sex Offender Kaitlyn Hunt in Court

Jana Eschbach, reporter from CBS12, interviewed the Smith family regarding the new #FreeKate information that has been revealed at the Conservative Hideout, The Other McCain, The American Spectator, and Viral Read.  When Jeanette Runyon filed her FOIA request, she enabled this new information to be discussed at all levels of the media.  Here are some excerpts from the CBS12 interview…

Tonight in this CBS 12 exclusive, the victim’s family in this case separates the truth from the rumors.
 
The rumor: The Smiths turned Kate Hunt into police when she turned 18 because she had a gay relationship with their daughter.
With that accusation, Laurie and Jim Smith say they were harassed by phone and emails, threatened, and hated. People called them “gay-haters.” But they took the hits, they say to protect their then 14 year old daughter.
“I don’t think she understands that and I don’t know she ever until she becomes a mother.” said Laurie Smith, trying to describe the scrutiny and pressure on her family as the case caught fire in the media.
 
The truth: New documents released show Kate promised to end the relationship months before her arrest.
Confronted in emails by the Smith’s niece, Shanne Reason, Kate Hunt admits “I know I am 18 and I can get in trouble, but I understand the consequences.”
Kate promised to end it.
That’s not the story her “Stop the Hate Free Kate” movement told the media.
 
“I feel good knowing that they know, I didn’t lie.” Laurie said.

Please go and read the rest.  There is video at the site, and it could not be embedded.

Now, local media are reporting the truth about Kaitlyn Hunt and the #FreeKate supporters.

If you would like to see @ABC2020, the Today Show and @TCPalm update their stories as well, kindly contact them.  Here are links to the latest posts that expose the #FeeeKate lies…

#FreeKate Update: New Information Proves that Kaitlyn Hunt Knew That Her Relationship was Illegal, and That She Was Warned to End it

#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family Claims Anti-gay Bias, Police Investigation Finds None-Kelley Hunt Smith Engages in it?

#FreeKate Update: Victim Tried to Break Off Relationship, Kaitlyn Hunt ‘Wouldn’t Let Her,’ Described to Have ‘Problem With Lying’

Cbs 12 Exclusive: Kate Hunt’s Former Girlfriend’s Family Reacts to Her Sentence

And, of course, #FreeKate supporters are still lying in order  to ban people that tell the truth…

Mix still lyingSadly, anyone on the planet is able to see that Mr. Mix only seeks to silence the truth about #FreeKate.  By using false spam reports in an effort to silence people that tell the truth, he only harm’s his own cause.  His own actions speak to his motivations.   His bully tactics continue to backfire, yet that’s all he has to counter the truth.

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#FreeKate Update: Victim Tried to Break Off Relationship, Kaitlyn Hunt ‘Wouldn’t Let Her,’ Described to Have ‘Problem With Lying’

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For the latest post in our series based on the information acquired via a FOIA request filed by Jeanette Runyon, we take a look into the nature of Kaitlyn Hunt’s relationship with her victim.  It seems that the victim tried to break off the relationship, but Kaitlyn wasn’t willing to do that.  I will be quoting two sources; Detective Shepherd’s report, and the text messages exchanged between Kelly Hunt Smith, and her daughter’s victim.  Please note that since the victim is a minor,  I will minimize the input from her part of the conversation to protect her from undo scrutiny, as well as from retaliation from the Hunts, or their supporters.

In essence, from two sources, we find that the victim tried to break off the relationship at some time prior to January 9, 2013, and Kaitlyn Hunt threatened to openly disclose that the victim was a lesbian.  Note that this come over one month before the arrest of Kaitlyn Hunt.  First, here is a screen capture from Detective Shepherd regarding a talk he had with the Captain of the Basketball team…

investigation no gay bias5

As you can see, the victim (indicated by her initials, C.S.) was reported as trying to break off the relationship.

Kiandrea told me that C.S. told her she attempted at one point to break it off with Kaitlyn.  However, Kaitlyn would not let her. Kaitlyn threatened to tell people about her sexual orientation.

Now, here are a serious screencaptures of the January 9, 2013 conversation between Kelley Hunt Smith, and the victim of her daughter…

cs tried to leave

khs victim 10

khs victim 10

What do U mean? Uve tried to break it off with her, and she wouldn’t let u? Kelley Hunt Smith

She threatened to put all the stuff we had out.  So. Like I’m not with all that. The victim of Kaitlyn Hunt

In this interaction, Kelley Hunt Smith does provide the victim with more information about her daughter…

kate lies

kate lies 2

Sweetie I hate to tell u this, but Kate has some issues, especially with lying.

Kate knows I have my concerns with it. You are very young. I don’t know if your parents and an family knew about this or approved, which obviously they don’t. 

I think what we are starting to see is that a young and vulnerable teen was taken in by an adult that has, “some issues, especially with lying.”  When the younger teen tried to break off the relationship, the adult threatened to make known that the young girl was a lesbian.

And what else did Kelley Hunt Smith think of the relationship between Kaitlyn and the victim?

cant understand what love is

Ur both young and at your age can’t understand what love is.

Just to add to the argument, let’s review some of the information that was uncovered in the Notification of Violation of Pretrial Release…

“Keep the f*ck quiet.”

“if my mom finds out we’re talking, I’m blaming it on you.”

“F*ck you…You’re stupid…you want me to go to jail…you’re such a messed up person…you snitched on me.

Kaitlyn Hunt, to her victim.

Does this not run completely counter the the assertion of #FreeKate supporters, like Rachael Carson Zerbe, who claimed that this was nothing more than a “loving relationship” between “peers?” Does “love” mean threatening to “out” someone if they leave a relationship?  Does it mean sending verbally abusive texts?  Or, was this an exploitative relationship, based on lies and threats?  I think the evidence, and the reaction Kelley Hunt Smith, would suggest that.

But there is more…

cant understand what love is2

 

Not to mention that your both very young to label yourselves sexually.  U may grow up to date guys, get married, and have kids. If u truly feel that you bi or a lesbian those are thoughts and feelings u should share with your parents.

Does this sound like a parent that was ready to go to war over this being “anti-gay bias?”   It seems that she believes that they are not set in their sexuality.

But was the victim a lesbian at all?

I don't like girls

 

 But, what I’ve tried to teach her is that lying always leads to something bad.  Kelley Hunt Smith

smh & this is.  I’m so sorry  I don’t like girls.  I guess I got wrapped up in Kate & what she would say.  Aha. Wow. yeah.  Victim of Kaitlyn Hunt

Once again, I think that we are seeing a very young girl who fell victim to manipulation at the hands of an adult.  She indicated in the above comment, as well as in another (unpublished one), that she isn’t a lesbian.   However, we see that Kaitlyn hunt was able to manipulate her into at least acting like one.

And, But, what I’ve tried to teach her is that lying always leads to something bad. could be an epitaph for this entire case.

For me, this interaction very strongly suggests that Kaitlyn Hunt was engaged in  a verbally abusive and manipulative relationship with a young teen.  The young teen was confused and easily manipulated by the older, more savvy adult, who in the words of her own mother, had problems with lying.

It also raises the question of what happened to the Kelley Hunt Smith, who in this entire interaction, was rather nurturing to the young victim?  Why did she go from being supportive and kind to this?

James and Laurie Smith wouldn’t give up. They were out to destroy my daughter, they feel like my daughter “made” their daughter gay. They are bigoted, religious [zealots] that see being gay as a sin and wrong, and they blame my daughter. Of course I see it 100% different. I don’t see or label these girls as gay. They are teenagers in high school experimenting with their sexuality, all teens do it in one form or another. They are teens, its healthy and normal. And even if their daughter is gay, who cares, she is still their daughter. (Emphasis added)

And why does Kelley Hunt Smith talk about the victim being “gay” when the victim herself told her that she was not?  Why did Kelley Hunt Smith go from indicating that they were too young to label themselves sexually, to stating that the young victim was gay?

The questions are starting to get a bit numerous, aren’t they?

In a sense, this post does leave us with  a number of unanswered questions.  However, it does show us that the relationship between Kaitlyn Hunt and her victim was abusive and controlling, and when the victim tried to leave, Kaitlyn Hunt threatened to “tell people” about her “sexual orientation.” And, if homosexual behavior is, in the words of Kelley Hunt Smith, “healthy and normal,” why did her daughter threaten her young victim with exposing that very “healthy and normal” behavior?  Why the inconsistency?  Or was it just a case of an adult using power and control to manipulate a young teen into staying in a relationship?  You can be the judge of that.

While we know more, I have a hunch that this is only the tip of the iceberg.  But, unless other legal developments come about, we will likely not know.  What we are left with is a traumatized victim and family, whose only desire was to protect their young daughter from an adult that wouldn’t let go.

For now, this is the last post regarding the information obtained in the FOIA request filed by Jeanette Runyon.   As always, should something newsworthy, such as more harassment, arrests, bullying, “pretend IRL stalking,” new evidence emerges, or legal developments occur, we will revisit the case.   In other words, this story is alive as the Hunts and their supporters make it.

Also, I will make the same offer that the website Support Honesty makes.  If there is any kind of actual documentation that proves anything in these last three posts incorrect, I will happily post it to correct the public record.  However, “documentation” means actual documentation, not, “because I said so.”

As always, we need to thank Jeanette Runyon, who has born the brunt of much abuse at the hands of #FreeKate supporters.  From openly plotting to get her banned from Twitter via false spam reports, to one even pretending to stalk her IRL, Jeanette came through under pressure.  Also, we need to thank Robert Stacy McCain, of The Other McCain, whose extensive Twitter readership, his blog, Viral Read, and an American Spectator post all supported the release of this information.  We also need to acknowledge the Smith family, that dug in and stayed the course for the sake of their daughter.  There are a host of other bloggers and individuals to thank and acknowledge, and I will do that in a future post.

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#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family Claims Anti-gay Bias, Police Investigation Finds None-Kelley Hunt Smith Engages in it?

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Alleged Sex Offender Kaitlyn Hunt in Court

From the earliest days of the #FreeKate story, the Hunt family had claimed that ant-gay bias was the reason for the arrest of their daughter.  Their claim was that the Smiths (the parents of Kaitlyn Hunt’s victim) had told school staff that they were upset that Kaitlyn Hunt had “made” their daughter gay, and that was unacceptable to them.   However, the police investigation was unable to find anyone who heard that.  Here are some excerpts from Detective Shepherd’s report…

investigation no gay biasinvestigation no gay bias 2

 

investigation no gay bias 3

investigation no gay bias 4

investigation no gay bias5

“…has never heard them make any anti-gay comments and has never heard them say that Kaitlyn (Hunt) turned their daughter gay,” seems to be the lowest common denominator.

Note that others were interviewed, but did not know the Smiths.

As you can see.  Detective Shepherd asked this question quite a few times, and no one stated that they heard the Smiths making such a comment.  So, the question is, did the Smiths ever make such comments?  And, if so, to  whom?  Or, is the claim of anti-gay bias just another invention of the Hunt family in order to take the attention off of Kaitlyn’s behavior?

It is also useful to review that the Vero Beach Chapter of PFLAG found no evidence of bias…

  The Other McCain has the details…

The local chapter of Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) refuses to support accused sex offender Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt:

PFLAG of Vero Beach has received questions and comments regarding the controvery involving the two young ladies in Sebastian.
We have been watching the developments in this case since it was brought to our attention. PFLAG of Vero Beach cannot enter into the controversy for the following reason. We have not been able to find where the charges brought against this unfortunate young lady are inspired by homophobia, or are in any way anti-LGBTQ. . . .
The cry of discrimination, unless more facts come out, does not seem to apply here. Some very simple research yields cases where heterosexual kids have been arrested and prosecuted under the same law.

But, who HAS demonstrated anti-gay bias?  The FOIA information obtained by Jeanette Runyon features a text conversation between Kaitlyn Hunt’s victim, and Kelley Hunt Smith, dated January 9, 2013.  Here is a comment from Kelly Hunt Smith to her daughter’s victim…

kelley doesnt agree with gaykelley doesnt agree with gay2kelley doesnt agree with gay3

 

“I am a Christian and have faith in god, so for me, I don’t think it’s right, or what god intended.”

That comment would get any Christian branded as a “hater,” would it not?

Kelley Hunt Smith doesn’t believe that being gay is “right,” or isn’t “what god intended.”  Is that anti-gay?  She said she wanted Kaitlyn to see a counselor about it…because of issues with her father?

I told her that I didn’t feel like she was gay, and I felt like she needed to go talk to a counselor about her issues with her dad.

Was she suggesting that this “made” her daughter gay?

Kelley Hunt Smith stated that the victim was too young, and the relationship wasn’t healthy?   If she believed that, why didn’t she do more to stop a relationship she admitted was problematic?

So, this is what Kelly Hunt Smith tells the victim-that she believes in God, and that she doesn’t believe that homosexuality “is right.”  But in May, she was saying something rather different about the situation…

They were both students in the same high school, it was a mutual consenting relationship on both parts.

This was unusual for Kate, she has always dated boys, but being the kind of mother I am, I didn’t want to make it a big deal. I talked to her about it, and figured it was just a social thing, times have changed and a lot of kids are experimenting, so I didn’t make much of it.

James and Laurie Smith wouldn’t give up. They were out to destroy my daughter, they feel like my daughter “made” their daughter gay. They are bigoted, religious [zealots] that see being gay as a sin and wrong, and they blame my daughter. Of course I see it 100% different. I don’t see or label these girls as gay. They are teenagers in high school experimenting with their sexuality, all teens do it in one form or another. They are teens, its healthy and normal. And even if their daughter is gay, who cares, she is still their daughter.

Unfortunately by the letter of the law, this girl has NO voice. Her parents can play the “victims” and ruin my daughters life. We have written letters through our attorneys trying to appeal to these people as parents, talk through it and come to some agreement or understanding but James and Laurie Smith refuse. These people’s delusional stand, their hate and bigotry is tearing our daughter apart.

Note the VERY different tone between January and May?  Kelley Hunt Smith contradicts what she said to the victim, and them attacks the Smiths, for having the same beliefs that she stated having in January?

Once again, we see some glaring differences between what Kelley Hunt Smith says, and what Kelley Hunt Smith says.  The question is, when was she lying, or was she lying at both times?

Tomorrow, we will take a look into the relationship between Kaitlyn Hunt and her victim, and have some more revealing comments from her mother.

Once again, we need to extend our thanks to Jeanette Runyon, who braved being banned by on Twitter by a handful of #FreeKate supporters, who have even pretended to stalk her in real life.  And while her attackers knowingly spread lies about her, she was busy obtaining the factual information that you have seen in the posts over the last two days.

 NOTE:  As the police investigation noted, two coaches indicated that Kaitlyn Hunt was NOT on the basketball team, and had not made the team.  She was permitted to work out with the team, but was told to stop due to “drama.”

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#FreeKate Update: New Information Proves that Kaitlyn Hunt Knew That Her Relationship was Illegal, and That She Was Warned to End it

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The news on the #FreeKate front has been sparse lately.  Other than a handful of #FreeKate supporters openly conspiring to get Jeanette Runyon banned from Twitter via false spam reports, there hasn’t been much about the case itself.  But, while @NicoleBonnett1 was pretending to stalk the Twitter Gulag inhabitant (plus her disabled veteran husband, her community, and her church) in real life, Jeanette was working on the case.  She had the thought to file a Freedom of Information Act Request with the IRC Sheriff’s Office.  That information arrived this past Friday.   Jeanette received over 300 pages of materials on the case.  Much of that information directly contradicts the claims of the Hunt family, and their supporters. Over the next several days, The Other McCain, and the Conservative Hideout, will be pointing out those blatant contradictions.

For today’s contradiction, or correction, that is, we have to revisit the claims that Kaitlyn Hunt did not know that her relationship with her victim was illegal, and they claim that she was never warned to end the relationship.  Here is an interview in which Kaitlyn Hunt denied knowing that she was aware that the relationship was illegal.

The claim that Kaitlyn Hunt was unaware of the illegal nature of the relationship with her victim was repeated in the 20/20 interview in early October as well.

However, information obtained from the IRC Sheriff’s Office via the FOIA Request filed by Jeanette Runyon definitely contradicts the claims of ignorance made by Kaitlyn Hunt.  The following screen-captures are from the police file, and features a Facebook chat between Kaitlyn Hunt, and a cousin of the victim…

Kaitlyn knew was warnedKaitlyn knew was warned 2Kaitlyn knew was warned 3

Note that I made the last capture wide enough to show the date of the conversation, which was January 9th.  I also, overlapped the conversation to make sure that nothing was left out.  And, if you read the first entry by Kaitlyn Hunt, you see that she fully acknowledges that she could get into trouble for her relationship with her victim.  So why then, did Kaitlyn Hunt state, to a national TV audience, that she did not know that the relationship was problematic?

Also, why did the Hunt family state that Kaitlyn was never warned to end the relationship, when this conversation obviously happened?  Also, I have to ask why Julia Graves, Kaitlyn Hunt’s lawyer, allow her client to lie on national TV?  Surely they were aware of this exchange, as it was in the police file?   Or, was it that they thought that this exchange would never see the light of day?  No matter which way you slice it, Kaitlyn Hunt knowingly and intentionally lied on national television.

Over the coming days, more and more information will be coming out about the case.  It is our intention to set the record straight and correct the false narrative set by the Hunts and their supporters.

Oh, and to @NicoleBennett1, @Periabo, Rachael Carson Zerbe, and crew; no amount of fake spam reports, making up crazy claims about people, false police reports, or PRETENDING to stalk people IRL will prevent this information from getting out.  While you were busy lying about Jeanette, she was busy exposing the lies.  This post is only the beginning.

How are all of your bullying tactics working out for you?

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UPDATE:  Also, #FreeKate Supporters are keeping it classy in the comments at The Other McCain…

Documents Prove Kaitlyn Hunt Lied; Knew Sex With 14-Year-Old Was Illegal _ The Other McCain - 2013-11-24_23.16.30

However, the would be stalkers have, as I indicated earlier, have only PRETENDED to stalk Jeanette, and her disabled veteran husband, her community, as well as her church.

Here is some content from The Other McCain…

BOOM:

Florida sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt, whose case became a cause for many gay rights activists this year, was aware that her affair with a 14-year-old was illegal, documents obtained from the Indian River County Sheriff’s Office show.
“Yes, I know I’m 18 and can get in trouble,” Hunt said in an online conversation more than a month before her February arrest, “but I understand the consequences and I know what I got myself into when I entered the relationship with [the underage girl].”
Hunt, who last month pleaded no contest to multiple felony charges in the case, has claimed in media interviews that she did not realize her involvement with the minor was a crime in Florida, where the legal age of consent is 16. “I wouldn’t have continued, if I really knew what the laws were and if I knew what I was getting myself into,” Hunt told ABC’s Matt Gutman in an interview broadcast on the network’s 20/20 program. . .

Blatant lies blatantly exposed.

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#FreeKate Update: Hunt Family and Supporters Escalate Threats Against Truth Tellers

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Have I mentioned that I’d really like to give the #FreeKate stuff a break?  However, they keep doing and saying things that I need to document here.  Why, might you ask?  I love making connections between stories, and the tactics used  by the subjects of those stories.  #FreeKate is an incredible opportunity to take a look at these tactics, and display them to the world.  When people know and can identify the tactics, they can be countered. So, here is the latest.

A couple weeks ago, my pastor and I were discussing a recent sermon.  The gist was that people have “default” behaviors to which they are accustomed to using.  And, once one is saved, and dedicated their life to Christ, they have to take care and make sure they don’t slide back into potentially destructive “default” behaviors, because that’s what they always have done.  That closely matches my observation that people always do what they are used to doing, especially when under stress.  This is why drinkers drink, druggies drug, and bullies bully, among others.  People will find security in what they know, even if it has negative long term results, or if it actually doesn’t work at all.  It’s human nature.  Conversely, and thankfully. most people find more constructive ways to solve their problems, like working, being honest, having dignity, and working towards solutions.  I once read that most millionaires had been millionaires before, had lost it all, and built it back up again.  Obviously, these folks have very constructive “default behaviors.”

Now, imagine you are one of the Hunts, or a supporter of #FreeKate.  Most of the locals are afraid of you, so they don’t get any ideas about speaking out.  The Smiths were threatened repeatedly, and have stayed mostly silent.    The #FreeKate crowd dug up “dirt” on Laure Smith, and Detective Shepherd.  Rachael Carson Zerbe publicly posted the information regarding Detective Shepherd on Twitter. They lied on the Change.org petition.  The MSM, at least at first, bought their lies that this was a case of “bias.”  Kelley Hunt Smith instructed the victim to “delete everything.”  Kaitlyn Hunt instructed the victim to lie for her.  And after that, they began a large fundraising campaign.  Their tactics, at least to them, seemed to be working quite well.

In decades past, this would have worked.  Without social media, the MSM would have only heard the Hunts, and the rest of the world would have only heard the MSM.  There would be no defense against the Hunts, nor would there be refuge for anyone that spoke out.   It would have likely stayed local, or at least, the commentary would have.  In all probability, this would have gone a lot better for them, and maybe the could have pressured the victims family, or the court, to drop the case altogether.  They would have controlled the narrative.

But, this is the 21st century, and I think the epitaph of this story is going to be…

We would have gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for those meddling bloggers!

And not just bloggers, but people like Twitter-warrior Jeanette Runyon, who has had false police reports filed against her.  One was to the wrong jurisdiction, and the other had an incorrect phone number on it, but it’s OK, they were trying!  The Twitter presence of truth tellers is impressive, but also the person who runs Support Honesty.  Another character in the cast, is “Matt Doe.” Using social media anonymously, he has been a consistent thorn in #FreeKate’s side, reaching out to supporters with information, and causing dissent in their ranks.  Needless to say, the #FreeKate crowd is interested in finding the identities of both individuals.  After all, one cannot be harassed or threatened if one’s identity is hidden?

From the beginning, the Hunts made this a national news story-going on Today, MSNBC, and CNN, and in so doing, they brought it to the attention of people that not only actively resist bullying tactics, but point them out as a means to educate the public.  So, people like Robert Stacy McCain, myself, and others, have taken to this story to counter the lies told via #FreeKate, and give a voice to those that would speak out, but cannot due to fears for their personal or financial security.

This is where the “default behavior” kicks in.  As the Hunts and their supporters lost control of their narrative, and the truth was getting out, they began lashing out in every increasing scale.  #FreeKate supporters, with the approval of Steven Hunt, conspired to take down The Other McCain.  One supporter stated that she reported me to the police for quoting her.  And, as we have discussed  Jeanette Runyon has been falsely reported, by inept and incompetent #FreeKate supporters.  And, as we documented the other day, there have been death threats made, and threats to ruin people “professionally.”  However, none of that has prevented any of us from stating the facts of the case, or examining the actions of #FreeKate.

As we can see, when the “default” behavior does not work, an individual might “double down,” on that behavior.  A drinker may go on a binge, and a bully might escalate their tactics in the hope that their targets come into line, and do as the bully pleases.  Instead of putting the square peg in the square hole, the bully will try to pound it into the round hole.

That has continued today.  If you recall my post from the other day,  my source noted that false accusations will be made, outlandish ones if needed.  I suggested that this is a means to keep truth tellers on the defensive, by making them defend themselves, rather than discussing the facts of something.  Here are two wild accusations…

rcz jeanette threatened smithsRachael Carson Zerbe accusing Jeanette Runyon of making the televised death threat against he Smith family.

RCZ Call staged And, she states that the death threats against the Smith family were staged.

Of course, quoting Rachael’s public comments is considered to be “cyberstalking.” 

Then, besides some strange and outlandish claims, there are increasing threats…

sateve wants addressSteven Hunt trying to track down the address of a truth teller.

Please note that in the world of #FreeKate, tracking down a person’s personal address is NOT stalking.  One is only guilty of stalking if one quotes the public statements of a supporter or a member of the Hunt family.-Matt

tracking McCain

This screencapture was modified before I received it.  They are claiming to be “investigating,” and “tracking” Robert Stacy McCain.  Sadly, it seems they are tracking McCain’s son, who is at Fort Bragg. However, given the training he is receiving there, none of us fear for his safety.

But remember kids, it’s only stalking if one quotes a Hunt family member, or a supporter.  Actually tracking someone’s personal information is most definitely NOT stalking. -Matt

cease and desist

Apparently, it didn’t work. 

As the source of my recent post indicated, when all else fails, the bullies, (or rabbits as he noted) will try to enlist law enforcement in their efforts to silence of punish others.  And, when combined with making up outlandish claims, they aren’t afraid to lie about the details. And if necessary, they will completely invent the details.  That, and they’ll play the victim, accusing others of stalking them, while they are busily stalking others.

If you recall, Robert Stacy McCain summed this up nicely…

“How dare you describe my attempt to intimidate you into silence?”

So, the Hunts and their supporters are facing an interesting quandary.  If they continue to lie, file false police reports, or even continue making threats (of death and otherwise), they will eventually get arrested or sued for something.   But, on the other hand, since we know their tactics, we are continuing to speak the truth, and they cannot silence us.  It can’t be an easy position in which to find oneself.  Then again, had they not lied, made threats, hired a PR firm, went to the national media, falsely tried to make this a gay rights issue, acted so thuggishly towards detractors (or even supporters who questioned the narrative), openly advocated to legalize sex between adults and minors, or any of the other things that caused people to rightfully ask questions about their behavior and motivations, they wouldn’t be in this mess, and their daughter would be home with them right now.

The more they try to regain control of the narrative with the use of threats and nonsense, the more negative attention that they are receiving.  And, if they manage to silence one, or more of us, it will only cause others to cover the situation.  They could quickly find themselves in the situation in which there isn’t a handful of blogs covering this, but several hundred.  That has happened before, and there is no way for them to silence hundreds of us.   Frankly, I don’t see them being able to silence any of us.

Frankly, If I were them, I would just stop.  They have their plea deal.  Their daughter is coming home for Christmas.   If Kaitlyn follows the requirements of the plea deal, she’ll have her life back.  However, if they continue to use threats and intimidation to attack anyone who disagrees with them, the more people that will be notice.  And, the cycle will continue.

Note:  The Conservative Hideout and it’s contributors do not recommend direct contact with the Hunts, or any of their supporters.  I have not emailed, phoned, texted, or  doxed anyone, and I condemn any efforts to do so, from any party.  Let’s leave the threats and intimidation to the bad guys.  We have the truth on our side.  There is no need for bullying.

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#FreeKate Update: More Inconsistencies, or Lies, From the Hunt Family

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Over the last few days, there have been some rather odd developments in the already strange case of Kaitlyn Hunt.  For those unfamiliar with the story Kaitlyn Hunt, she was a then 18 year old, who was arrested for having a sexual relationship with 14 year old.  At the bottom of this post are some links to catch you up.

As for the latest on the legal front, there was a continuance last week, and Kelley Hunt Smith, the mother of alleged sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt stated the following on the #KatesFight Facebook Page…

From supporthonesty.net

From supporthonesty.net

As you can see, the message from Kelley Hunt Smith did get her supporters rather upset.  But, as seems to be a pattern, her statement is completely untrue.  The owner of Support Honesty, the greatest collection of actual facts about the #FreeKate case and resulting movement, called the office of the lawyer of Kaitlyn Hunt, and was told something completely different.

We contacted Kaitlyn Hunt’s attorney’s office and asked them the reason for the continuance; we were told by Attny Grave’s office that it was due to depositions by the defense that are scheduled for October, contrary to Kelley’s claims.

I have been informed that the screencapped posts above have been scrubbed from the #KatesFight page since Support Honesty posted the results of their call to the Lawyers office.

The second rather strange development in the story concerns Kaitlyn Hunt’s father, Steven Hunt.  He is credited with authoring a Change.org petition, and also another post on xojane.com.  Here is more from Support Honesty…

– The petition created via change.org (Assistant State Attorney Brian Workman: Stop the prosecution of an 18 year old girl in a same-sex relationship) by Kaitlyn’s father, Steven Hunt Jr., was used as the centerpiece of Hunt’s efforts to enlist support via social media. It claimed “The two girls began dating while Kaitlyn was 17” – which is inconsistent with the family’s own statements elsewhere and is completely untrue.

The petition also stated the victim’s parents “waited until after Kaitlyn turned 18 and went to the police to have charges brought against her” which is a fabrication. This clearly is the basis for much of the confusion involving Kaitlyn’s age when the relationship began and the misconception involving manipulation by the younger girl’s parents, waiting to spring a trap upon Kaitlyn’s 18th birthday.

NOTE: The text of the petition has since been quietly altered (subsequent to collecting of hundreds of thousands of signatures based on the original Hunt narrative) to reflect a more honest version of events; however, the original text has been archived online (June 24, 2013) and remains accessible through search engines as it had been duplicated on supporters’ websites.

– A May 20 article written by Steven Hunt Jr. that appears at xojane.com claims “This relationship occurred when they were both minors, and my daughter’s girlfriend’s parents waited until she turned 18 to arrest her.” This is still patently untrue.

NOTE: Bizarrely, after 4 months elapsed since the xojane.com article was published, Steven Hunt has decided to begin publically denying he authored it (screenshot; Facebook thread removed shortly thereafter). No explanation has yet been given why the change.org petition, which was also authored by Steven, contained the same misinformation as the xojane article.

Here is the Facebook post…

from supporthonesty.net

And again, the post was scrubbed.

It is truly sad that the lawyers for this family have no told them to stop this type of activity.  The Hunt family has no credibility whatsoever.  They have had inconsistent stories, and flat out lies since day one.  If Steven Hunt did not write the petition or other article mentioned, who did?  And, if Mr. Hunt knew of these articles, and that they were untrue, why did he not complain to the respective sites that someone was using his name without his permission?  And, why was the post of him denying that he wrote the articles taken down?  Are they trying to hide something?

I’ll let you be the judge.  It reminds me of the saying, “liars, lie, and cheaters cheat.”

Here is an archive of posts…

More ‘Inner Workings’ of the #FreeKate Facebook Page: Control the Message and Punishing Dissent

#FreeKate #KatesFight Update: Law Enforcement Involvement and the Consequences of Standing up to Bullies

#FreeKate Update: “Jailbait Manifesto” Appears on Twitter

#FreeKate Update: Insider Information on Accusing the Accusers

#FreeKate Update: These are the Most Ironic People I’ve Ever Encountered!

A Tale of Two Stories: #FreeKate, Lies, and Blaming the Victim

Has MSNBC Turned on #FreeKate?

#FreeKate Update: Screenshots Show ‘Essential Cause’ is to Legalize Sex With Kids

A Tale of Two Stories: #FreeKate and the Case of Convicted Sex Offender Neal Erickson

#FreeKate Update: Kelley Hunt Smith Complains About Being a Parent, Anonymous Comment States She Never Taught “Right From Wrong”

#FreeKate Update: Former Classmate States Kaitlyn Hunt is a “Bully,” Referred to Other Student as ‘Fat Dyke”

#FreeKate Update: Steven Hunt, Supporters Want The Other McCain “Kicked off the Internet?”

#FreeKate Update: Announcement from Lawyer and Statements of Supporters Give Insight Into #FreeKate Mindset

#FreeKate Update: Live Stream for the Hearing of Alleged Sexual Offender Kaitlyn Hunt UPDATED: Bond Revoked, to be Held Without Bond Until Trial!

#FreeKate Update: Kaitlyn Hunt Taken Into Custody! UPDATE: Supporters Blame Victim!

#FreeKate Update: Most Recent Plea Deal Withdrawn by Prosecutors Due to Alleged Bond Violations by Kaitlyn Hunt UPDATED WITH LOCAL MEDIA COVERAGE

#FreeKate Update: Media Coverage, and Kaitlyn Hunt’s Mother Allegedly Contacted Victim to Told Her to Delete Evidence of Illegal Contact, Hearing Set for Tuesday August 20th

#FreeKate Update: Kaitlyn Hunt has Allegedly Violate Court Orders to Avoid Contact With Victim, Has Sent 20,000 Texts, Many of Them Sexually Explicit, Has Had Sexual Contact with Alleged Victim as Recently as Two Weeks Ago

#FreeKate Update: Trip to Gay Pride Parade in NY, Meltdown Among Supporters

#FreeKate Update: Support Crumbling, and Why Even Cover it?

Gay Rights and #FreeKate Supporter Calls for “Final Solution” Against Christians

#FreeKate Update: Stalker Supporters and Degenerate Justifications

Why the #FreeKate Story is Important: Legalizing Pedophilia?

#FreeKate Update: What is Consensual?

Great Moments in Civil Discourse: #FreeKate Supporter Suggests Christians be Burned at the Stake

#FreeKate Update: Picture of Kaitlyn Hunt in a Fight?

#FreeKate Update: The “Tolerant Left” at Work

#FreeKate Update: Gay Rights Crowd Starts Distancing Them From The Hunts?

#FreeKate Update: Could Someone Please Report this “Libelous Post?”

#FreeKate Update: Does Video Show Kaitlyn Hunt Being Less Than a “Model Citizen?”

#FreeKate Update: Family and Supporters Threaten Truth Tellers, Attempt Others From Using Pictures of Alleged Perpetrator

#FreeKate Update: Parents of Child Victim of “Accuse the Accusers,” Lies of Kaitlyn Hunt Supporters

#FreeKate Update: Refuses Plea Deal, Was Kaitlyn Hunt “grooming” her Victim?

Liberals Favor Sex With Children: #FreeKate Means Legalizing Pedophilia?

Edited due to massive copypasta error.

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#FreeKate Update: Bullied in Prison? Are the Hunts ‘Reaping What They Have Sown?’

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We’re a nation  that likes underdogs, and have a disdain for people that abuse the underdog.  Even though so many are bullies, we have a gut level aversion to them, and we like to see justice done.   Our pop culture reflects it even to this day.  For example, the mad scientist becomes  lunch for his awful creations.   The criminal get’s killed, and loses in the end.   The crooked cop gets double crossed by the bad guys he was helping.  The corrupt politician gets exposed and humiliated.

We love to see people get “theirs.” It’s karma.

I know I’m a Christian, so why invoke karma?  I like to refer to karma as “The Enforcement Arm of the Golden Rule.”  It’s the equivalent of the Biblical, “you reap what you sow.”  I do believe in that, and it often happens with ironic results.

Enter #FreeKate.  Last night Kelley Hunt Smith  posted this in the Free Kate Fuhrer Bunker…

Tuesday night, Kelley Hunt Smith posted on Facebook:

She’s been having some trouble with a few inmates bullying her, but she spoke to a supervisor and they assured her they would take care of it. It scares me so bad having her in jail, she is just a kid, she’s so afraid. Her spirit is so broken. We try to encourage her as best as we can. She is trying so hard to stay positive. She loves reading the letters we send and the ones you all send her as well, it really lifts her spirit, so thank you from the bottom of my heart. I’m praying so hard everyday that something positive happens and soon. We are still fighting and preparing for this trial. It’s so hard to understand how all this is really happening, it’s just so wrong. I have to stay strong and focus on Kate and our family. Thank you all for the love, prayers and support. #FREEKATE #NEVERGIVINGUP

R.S. McCain has a lot more posted over at his place, but my take is slightly different.

Remember how Kaitlyn Hunt was described by this claimed former classmate?

Take a look at it for yourself. 

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And, who can forget this incident from the “model citizen?”

Or this?

I personally go to school and am in the same grade as Kaitlyn Hunt. I can tell you that the way the media is portraying her is far from reality. I have never even made contact with her before, but from personal experience I can say that she is not a good person and is not ‘innocent’. She is known as a whore throughout the school, constantly starts high school drama, gets in school suspensions, and is overall not well liked at all. No, I don’t have a grudge against her, I’ve never even made contact with her. It’s just that my whole school knows she’s not a good person and don’t think it’s fair the media is portraying this otherwise. Hopefully this video further proves she is not the girl everyone thinks she is.

And, who can forget how Kaitlyn’s mother, Kelley Hunt Smith treated the victim’s family?

James and Laurie Smith wouldn’t give up. They were out to destroy my daughter, they feel like my daughter “made” their daughter gay. They are bigoted, religious [zealots] that see being gay as a sin and wrong, and they blame my daughter. Of course I see it 100% different. I don’t see or label these girls as gay. They are teenagers in high school experimenting with their sexuality, all teens do it in one form or another. They are teens, its healthy and normal. And even if their daughter is gay, who cares, she is still their daughter.

Or,even how Kaitlyn spoke to her victim…

“F*ck you…You’re stupid…you want me to go to jail…you’re such a messed up person…you snitched on me.”

So then, if Kaitlyn Hunt is suffering some bullying in jail, isn’t she getting back what she has done to others?  Is she reaping what she sown?  Is this a case of, “what comes around goes around?”

In the end, karma is one real, cold-hearted, and relentless b*tch, as Kaitlyn Hunt is discovering.

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#FreeKate Update: “Jailbait Manifesto” Appears on Twitter: UPDATED

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I’m not certain who wrote it, but it was posted by “Rachael.”  I’m calling it, the “Jailbait Manifesto.” Rachael (MRC_43) on Twitter_20130908-142114

Now, this is both interesting, as well as disturbing.   However, since it was publicly posted, it’s grist for the mill, so to speak.  It was posted in segments, as you will see, and  I think I have the order correct.

 

 

Here, the author misses some rather important details…

They overlook that the relationship between the victim and her abuser began when the victim was 14.

She overlooks that from the texts revealed by the prosecution, there was a great deal of manipulation going on.

The Jailbait Manifesto’s author forgets these texts from the alleged sexual offender, Kaitlyn Hunt…

“Keep the f*ck quiet.”

“if my mom finds out we’re talking, I’m blaming it on you.”

“F*ck you…You’re stupid…you want me to go to jail…you’re such a messed up person…you snitched on me.”

And, who can remember this, from Kelley Hunt Smith, the alleged sexual offender’s mother?

“DELETE EVERYTHING..My Number is (redacted) my email is (redacted) PLEASE delete everything and make sure that NO ONE finds out you’ve spoken to Kate at all!”

As well all know, threats and manipulation are at the core of every “loving” relationship, right?

SJ Reidhead, a blogger who is also an abuse survivor, shared her insights in a very powerful post…

This is what Kate Hunt’s victim is looking forward to, for the next 30 or 40 years of her life.  She’s been separated from her parents, now probably doesn’t even trust them.  She won’t trust her old friends.  Friends at church will not be part of her life.

I know someone who dated a guy who was abusive.  His family thought they were above the law, so to speak.  His mother did everything she could to separate this person from her mother.  The damage has taken over thirty years to be repaired.  Their relationship has never been the same.  This is what the victim’s mother has to look forward to, if she is lucky.

Kate Hunt’s victim is at an extremely vulnerable age.  Being 14 and 15 is traumatizing enough, without being a young lesbian, and without being the victim of a psychopathic, narcissistic predator and her extremely vicious parents.  Dealing with life at her age is not easy.  You either hate or love yourself, both at the same time, almost bi-polar as normal.  You are up and you are down, all in the same minute.  When you sit, you hold a pillow in front of your body.  That’s normal.

The victim has been manipulated into thinking that Kate is probably the love of her life.  Her morals have been destroyed.  Her innocence is shattered.  Unless her parents take her far away from Florida, she’s never going to get a break.  The Hunts of this world are far too nasty and far too invasive.  If you  what Steve Hunt is doing to those who are writing about the story is bad, just wait until they continue to harass an innocent life and her family.

As you can see, the victim has been manipulated into thinking that she wants to be with Kate, even though alleged sexual offender,Kaitlyn Hunt, was reportedly in a relationship with another woman!

In this part of the manifesto, the author goes to great lengths to deceive the reader into thinking that this was a consensual relationship, when all along, it is well known that 14 year-olds cannot consent, and the fact that she was so completely manipulated is proof of why.

Here is the second post…

 

Here is the second post, from Rachael Carson Zerbe, of the “Jailbait Manifesto”

RCZ right to jailbait 2

Both girls were humiliated? How might that have happened?

Was it that the Hunts repeatedly named the victim and her family?

Was it the Hunts that went on the Today Show, MSNBC, CNN, and a host of others?

Was it the Hunts the created petitions?

Did the Hunts use Facebook pages in an effort, among others, to discredit/embarrass/extort(?) the victim’s mother and the Detective (and, ironically Rachael published the said “information” about that detective openly on Twitter!)?

Did the prosecutors have to release the Arrest Affidavit and the Notice of Violation to counter the extensive and persistent lies told by the family on social media, as well as the national media?

So then, who did the embarrassing?

I really loved the part about “Christian Conservative Bloggers,” that “spew the most vile hate filled vitriolic bullsh*t.” Ofcourse, I’m one of those, and you know what?  The author is right.  We have published “vile, hate filled, vitriolic bullsh*t.”  Here are some examples of  vile, hate filled, vitrtiolic, bullsh*t…

James and Laurie Smith wouldn’t give up. They were out to destroy my daughter, they feel like my daughter “made” their daughter gay. They are bigoted, religious [zealots] that see being gay as a sin and wrong, and they blame my daughter. Of course I see it 100% different. I don’t see or label these girls as gay. They are teenagers in high school experimenting with their sexuality, all teens do it in one form or another. They are teens, its healthy and normal. And even if their daughter is gay, who cares, she is still their daughter.

Unfortunately by the letter of the law, this girl has NO voice. Her parents can play the “victims” and ruin my daughters life. We have written letters through our attorneys trying to appeal to these people as parents, talk through it and come to some agreement or understanding but James and Laurie Smith refuse. These people’s delusional stand, their hate and bigotry is tearing our daughter apart.

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See Rachael, what you posted is correct.  We have posted all the vile, hate filled, vitriolic BS posted by the Hunts and their supporters. We have pointed out that they have been lying since day one. And, as we know from the liberals, truth=hate!

And, as we all know, trying to keep an adult from molesting your minor child is the epitome of  a “witchhunt.”

After all, Kate had the legal right, as a lesbian, to sample that jailbait, didn’t she Rachael?  Forget that PFLAG wouldn’t support Kate, because even they said that simple research showed that heterosexuals are prosecuted for the same thing on a regular basis.

The Other McCain has the details…

The local chapter of Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) refuses to support accused sex offender Kaitlyn Ashley Hunt:

PFLAG of Vero Beach has received questions and comments regarding the controvery involving the two young ladies in Sebastian.
We have been watching the developments in this case since it was brought to our attention. PFLAG of Vero Beach cannot enter into the controversy for the following reason. We have not been able to find where the charges brought against this unfortunate young lady are inspired by homophobia, or are in any way anti-LGBTQ. . . .
The cry of discrimination, unless more facts come out, does not seem to apply here. Some very simple research yields cases where heterosexual kids have been arrested and prosecuted under the same law.

Moving right along…

 

Update:  Rachael Carson Zerbe was suspended from Twitter, but I had screencapped the “Jailbait Manifesto.”RCZ right to jailbait 3

Wow, this is just total nonsense. “Entrapment?” Didn’t Kaitlyn entrap herself by molesting the younger girl in a school restroom? Or, is the author just lamenting the fact that the victim didn’t lie for her abuser?  Then again, the victim didn’t lie for her abuser the second time, even after being instructed to lie, as well as destroy evidence.

Let’s tale a look at the final piece of text…

 

Update:  Rachael Carson Zerbe was suspended from Twitter, but I had screencapped the “Jailbait Manifesto.”RCZ right to jailbiat end

Wow, there is a Constitutional right for adults to have sex with minors? I’m not sure that I’ve ever read that in the Constitution before.

If this were an equal protection case, it would already be over, because, as PFLAG points out, heterosexual cases like this are prosecuted on a regular basis. Is the author suggesting that there is some “special right” for lesbians to molest minors?  The lesbians aren’t asking for it, so I wonder where this is coming from?

Heroines?  I can see it now.  Kaitlyn Hunt can be the “Harriet Tubman” of the jailbait.  Portraits will be painted of her, leading minors out of the dark, cold, night, and into her bed?

There is nothing heroic about molesting minors.  There is nothing virtuous about violating court orders, threatening a victim, or instructing the victim of a crime to destroy evidence.  There is nothing heroic or good about “digging up dirt” on a sexual abuse victim’s family, or a detective.  There is nothing praiseworthy about naming the family of the victim of a sex crime, and causing them to receive threats.  There is nothing noble about lying about a crime so much, that the prosecution has to release true information to correct the public record.  In fact, it is the opposite; it is cruel, manipulative, and completely evil.  A child was victimized, and the Hunts, along with their #FreeKate supporters keep lying and manipulating in order to make it all legal.

I have to admit that reading this “Jailbait Manifesto” was pretty disturbing.  My sarcasm was a reaction to the discomfort.  You see, I’d like to think of myself as a decent man, so seeing this blatant effort to legalize sex with minors is deeply disturbing.  I also know that leftists will work incrementally, so this is really the first slide on the slippery slope towards making sex with younger and younger children legal.  I know about Cultural Marxism.  I knew that this was coming.  It’s just the next step in the process.  It has been an openly stated objective for over 40 years.  But still, I get frankly upset when I see something so totally evil being promoted.  And, as long I have breath, and a keyboard, I’ll continue to point out the the pure evil, the hate, and the lies.

For now, I’m going to hit the “publish button,” and take a shower.

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#FreeKate Update: These are the Most Ironic People I’ve Ever Encountered!

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There are times that it’s best to know where to watch, and just let a story come to you.  I don’t know if that’s something that is taught to young journalists, as I’m not in that profession.  However, I have learned that as a blogger, sometimes it works quite well to let something unfold right in front of you, and then take to your keyboard to write of the gifts that came to you.  The #FreeKate sage has been just such a story.  For a blogger, #FreeKate has been the gift that keeps on giving.  With all the lies, threats, and utter nonsense coming out of the #FreeKate camp, combined with the complete lack of personal responsibility on the part of the family, there has not been a shortage of things to write about.

I’ve classified #FreeKate as a liberal movement.  Given that their main goal (for which Kaitlyn Hunt is the vehicle), is to make it legal for adults to have sex with kids, it perfectly matches  the stated, long term goals of the gay rights movement.  Given that status, we can expect them to act as other liberal movements, like labor unions, occupods, and the like.  So, we can then expect threats, intimidation, hypocrisy, and general illogical, reality deprived thinking to be in abundant supply.  After all, they are schooled in Alinsky, and even if they don’t know his name, they are using his methods.

So, when I saw these posts from Kaitlyn Hunt’s mother, Kelly Hunt Smith, I ended up laughing.  Apparently, she’s complaining about “hate.”

Hunt crazy hunt on hate

OK then, let’s go back to Kelly Hunt Smith’s infamous post from May of this year…

What I’m about to share with you is extremely private and difficult on myself and my family, but mostly my daughter Kaitlyn. However im at a point where I don’t know what else to do. Sharing personal family matters with anyone, let alone total strangers is extremely scary but my daughters life is at risk, so im willing to do whatever it takes, no matter how difficult. Anyone who knows me, even a little, knows what kind of person I am. Anyone who knows my daughter Kate, knows how wonderful she is. Kate is an 18 year old senior about to graduate from SRHS. She has an exemplary record at school and home. She has always been a wonderful student, respected and well liked. She has cheered on the varsity cheer team all throughout high school, shes sung in chorus and was voted most school spirited. She has never been in trouble, ever, she truly is the model student and child.

My heart dropped, I knew then that it had to have been her girlfriend’s parents, James and Laurie Smith.

These people never came to us as parents, never tried to speak to us, didn’t try to get the school involved to speak to us and tell us they had a problem with the girls dating, not one single word. Instead, they set out their vengeance and had my child arrested on FELONY charges. The nightmare continued. Kate was bailed out and sat in front of a Judge. He told her she could continue going to school, but was to have no contact with her girlfriend. I went to the school and spoke to them, let them know what was going on, I wanted to make sure there was no issues or problems. It is Kate’s senior year, she only had a few months until graduation and we wanted her to finish. The school was very supportive, they all know and loved Kate. They told us that the other girls parents had already come in and wanted Kate to be expelled, they told them no, they wouldn’t do that. James and Laurie Smith didn’t like that, so that petitioned the court and asked the judge to remove Kate from school, even though the Judge already ruled Kate could continue school. We sat in front of the Judge again, and the judge ruled yet again that Kate could continue going to school, he didn’t feel like Kate was any threat at all.

James and Laurie Smith wouldn’t give up. They were out to destroy my daughter, they feel like my daughter “made” their daughter gay. They are bigoted, religious [zealots] that see being gay as a sin and wrong, and they blame my daughter. Of course I see it 100% different. I don’t see or label these girls as gay. They are teenagers in high school experimenting with their sexuality, all teens do it in one form or another. They are teens, its healthy and normal. And even if their daughter is gay, who cares, she is still their daughter.

But, the fight continued. James and Laurie Smith fought dirty, we pushed back and tried everything we could. I went to the school board with not one but two orders from Indian River County Judges saying Kate could continue going to school, but the school board sided with James and Laurie Smith, and expelled my daughter. Kate was forced to go to the alternative school. The school board made one concession and allowed Kate to attend her senior events like grad bash, and senior fun day at the school and she will be able to walk at her graduation at the high school and actually graduate from SRHS. But her senior year was ruined . . .

. . .  she was taken away from her normal life, her friends and her school activities because of James and Laurie Smith. It was still blantenlty wrong, and discriminative. James and Laurie Smith have forced the State Attorneys office to go thru with felony charges and are trying to ruin my daughters life. This is insane. This should have never been a legal matter, it is a family matter.

They are trying to send an innocent young girl to prison because they are full of hate and bigotry.

Unfortunately by the letter of the law, this girl has NO voice. Her parents can play the “victims” and ruin my daughters life. We have written letters through our attorneys trying to appeal to these people as parents, talk through it and come to some agreement or understanding but James and Laurie Smith refuse. These people’s delusional stand, their hate and bigotry is tearing our daughter apart.

I need the communities help. I need people to stand and fight with me for my daughters life. Should the girls have made better choices, YES. I agree, but is this criminal, no. Does my daughter deserve to lose her life for 15 years, or 3 years, or to have no life, because of one choice she made in high school, absolutely not!! The state attorney, Brian Workman needs to use taxpayers money to prosecute REAL criminals, not a high school student who has never been in trouble a day in her young life, all because she had a mutual consenting relationship with someone who has bigoted parents.

Thanks to R.S. McCain for capturing that.  The bolded text is his, and you can see the full statement plus his commentary at the link.  For the purposes of this post, we won’t look at the lies, which are numerous.  We’ll look at the hate.  You see, Kelly Hunt Smith laments hate…

Unless she’s engaging in it herself.

You see, for Kelley Hunt Smith, pointing out the hypocrisy and lies of both her, and her #FreeKate minions is OMG HATE!!  However, when she engages in a tirade against the victim’s family, and disparaging them? Well, that’s perfectly OK.

Of course, since the alleged sexual offender, Kaitlyn Hunt is being portrayed as a victim of unjust laws that prevent adults from having sex with kids-not to mention the evil Christian parents of the victim, they have to use powerful imagery.  Take a look at this…

hunt holocaustOf course, any reasonable person equates denying adults the ability to have sex with kids with gassing 6,000,000 Jews.  You know, jailbait!

But interestingly enough, some #FreeKate supporters have proposed a “final solution” of their own…

Screenshot from 2013-06-03 00:46:55Or maybe this…

American Power_Homosexual Rights Activist Calls for Final Solution to the Christian Problem_20130622-140529Well, at least one has graced us evil Christians with a choice…

Screenshot from 2013-06-03 01:03:46

Awfully magnanimous of her, isn’t it?

Just remember, since this is targeting evil Christians that seek to prevent adults from having sex with kids, it’s not hate.

I could go on with this all day, but I’ll show one more hypocritical point before closing.

If you recall, most cases like the one involving Kaitlyn Hunt are settled by plea.  It’s usually done quickly and quietly, and never make it off the back page of the local newspaper.  So then, who made this a national story?  The Hunts did. They appeared on Today.  They went on MSNBC.  They were mentioned on multiple news services, sites, or stations all over the world. They are involved in a Facebook page (that someone else runs). They have started online petitions, and a Go Fund me page.  But now, since the media has caught on to their lies, they don’t seem to be craving the attention so much?

steve hunt mad at media

You see, the Hunts thought they controlled the narrative.  Once their lies were exposed, and the media started asking real questions, they aren’t so keen on the media.  Funny, isn’t it?

In the end, this is a liberal movement, and it can be studied as such.  Remember how Anthony Weiner was allegedly “hacked?”  Remember that there was massive efforts to cover up his perverse Twitter habits?   It was  someone else’s fault, and it was always in order to control the message.  Unfortunately for the Hunts, they are obviously not intelligent enough to pull that off successfully.  That, and they are terrible liars.  I’m quite confident that as this story keeps opening up, the evidence of both will become increasingly clear.

And might I add that bloggers “exposed”  Weiner, and are in the process of exposing the Hunts as well?

As always, stay tuned for more.

If you want to checkout the coverage of this story from the beginning, take a look at the following…

The Other McCain

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A Tale of Two Stories: #FreeKate, Lies, and Blaming the Victim

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Alleged Sex Offender Kaitlyn Hunt in Court

I’ve been discussing the #FreeKate effort in the context of liberalism.  From the anonymous “cool mom” claims regarding Kelley Hunt Smith, to the blaming of the victim and her family, to the frantic efforts to keep their lies from being exposed, #FreeKate is like a Petri dish with pure liberalism as it’s growth medium.  If you can stand the stench, you can take a peek and gain understanding.  Also, one cannot overlook the most important factor…

They want to make it legal for adults to have sex with kids.

I want to discuss two stories today; one, of course, is the reaction of the Hunt family after it was discovered that she violated the no contact order with the victim.  An “infiltrator” of sorts stated she took this screencap from the “private” Free Kate page run by the Hunts and their supporters…

Hunt Blame Victim

Obviously, that is yet another lie.  As we now know, and as the Hunts knew for some time, Kaitlyn had provided her alleged victim with a iPod, which she then used to contact the victim, exchanging over 20,000 text messages, with some of them containing nude photos of Kaitlyn Hunt.  To refresh, here, once again, is the relevant legal documents…

 

Kaitlyn Hunt Violation

So, it is lying to protect themselves, even when it is easily disproven.  It is also blaming the victim. But, as the document also shows, Kelley Hunt Smith KNEW about the contact against the release order, and contacted the victim, instructing her to delete “everything.” Note that the contact occurred on March 26, 2013. So, for MONTHS, Kelley Hunt Smith knew that the illegal contact was an issue, so the statement reportedly from the Hunts the day she went back to jail is a complete fabrication.

Yes, the lies are that bad.

The Hunts fit the liberal template because they deny that their adult daughter had any responsibility for her actions, and instead, it’s the victim’s fault.  That is a familiar refrain, as we will see in the second story.

Have ou ever read a news story, and something that is quoted makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand on end, like you’ve just encountered pure evil?   That happened to me in 2003, when I read this in my local paper…

A Uniontown man who reportedly admitted raping three foster children in
his care agreed to plead guilty to multiple sex-abuse related charges
Monday in Fayette County Court.

In exchange, Jeffrey Craggette, 39, of 33 E. Kerr Street will serve
five to 10 years in prison. After his arrest, he reportedly told police
the girls came on to him.

Craggette allegedly forced two girls, 12 and 14, who lived with him in
his role as a foster parent, to watch pornography on his computer and
havesex with him. He also allegedly assaulted a 12-year-old girl who
came to Craggette’s home on her birthday, April 20, 2002.

The allegations came to Uniontown Police after one of the girls told
someone who notified Fayette County Children and Youth Services.

Craggette, according to court records, was a foster parent through an
Allegheny County agency and had approximately 13 different children in
his care at different times.

Between the summer of 1999 and April 24, 2003, he allegedly abused the
two 12-year-olds and 14-year-old girl.

The abuse started with the 12-year-old who lived with him when the girl
was in third grade and continued until she was in fifth grade,
according to police. That abuse stopped when around Thanksgiving 2002,
when Craggette allegedly started abusing the 14-year-old.

The older girl told police Craggette started abusing her in February
2002, and forced her to have intercourse with him at least 10 times and
to perform oral sex at least 10 times.

When the second 12-year-old came to Craggette’s home on April 20, 2002,
he reportedly woke her up in the middle of the night and told her,
“You’re my new girlfriend,” before allegedly assaulting her.

She left the next morning, said police.

Craggette faces multiple counts of rape, involuntary deviate sexual
intercourse, aggravated indecent assault, statutory sexual assault and
corruption of minors.

When police arrested him, Craggette reportedly admitted to assaulting
the girls, and said, “I need help.”

He also claimed that, “You girls keep coming on to me and I’m not
strong enough. I need to get my life straight with God and society.”

Judge John F. Wagner Jr. will take Craggette’s plea later this week.

(emphasis added)

Note that this story no longer exists on the local newspaper’s website.  It was found on an online forum in it’s entirety. The link is to that forum.

I remembered that from nearly ten years ago, because I almost became physically ill when I read it the first time.  It is the personification of what sexual abusers are-evil.

Now, let’s compare…

…he reportedly told police the girls came on to him.

The victim contacted Kate, and she responded…

In both cases, the victims are blamed for the incidents.  Am I saying that both crimes are the same?  No, but both Jeffrey Craggette and the family of Kaitlyn Hunt engaged in the same defense.

It’s someone else’s fault.

The victim is to blame.

This is liberalism folks.  Evil is “good.”  Good is “evil.”  Victims of crimes are to blame for “entrapping” otherwise good people.  And, anyone who points out the truth are “haters.”  And, “haters” must be silenced!

Because, my friends, no one hates the truth more than a liar.

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A Tale of Two Stories: #FreeKate and the Case of Convicted Sex Offender Neal Erickson

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You can really consider this an update on both stories, because I covered the situation with Neal Erickson a few weeks ago.  Here is the what is going on there…

Yes, you read that right.  A teacher has admitted to having repeated sexual contacts with a 14 year-old student, and there are a number of fellow teachers, as well as a school board member that have  come forward to defend him.  The Daily Caller has the disturbing details… 

Residents in a speck of a rural farm town in northern Michigan want to recall a school board member and fire several teachers who showed support for a local middle school teacher convicted of having sexual relations with an eighth-grade student.

The teacher, Neal Erickson, had been a science and computer-education teacher at Rose City Middle School. He was convicted of having sex with an eighth-grade student on multiple occasions, reports The Detroit News.

There were about 10 encounters. They involved oral sex, reports WSMH FOX 66. They occurred at the teacher’s house.

Erickson pleaded guilty to a single count of criminal sexual conduct. He was sentenced in July to 15 to 30 years in prison, reports the Ogemaw County Herald.

Prior to his sentencing, six current teachers and two retired ones penned letters to the presiding judge seeking leniency for their child-molesting colleague. The group — along with board member Michael Eagan — also sat with Erickson’s relatives during his sentencing hearing.

OK, let’s imagine for a moment that someone you know was revealed to be a child molester.  Not just one event, but  ten! Again, take a second to think about it, this guy did something he knew he shouldn’t have done, and then did it again-at least NINE more times!  That isn’t a mistake; it’s a pattern.  Now, given all of that, would you want anything to do with them?  Would you condemn them for their actions uncategorically?  And, what would you reasonably think of the people that are defending him?

So, that was the state of affairs at the time.  It has gotten even more interesting since…

The family of the victim has demanded that the teachers who supported criminal pervert Neal Erickson be fired, and have begun a petition drive to recall school board members who supported the criminal pervert. And guess what happened next?

A garage fire at John and Lori Janczewski’s house on Grandjean Road near Rose City destroyed the couple’s garage and melted the siding on their home early Saturday morning.
Lt. Melvin Matthews, post commander for the Michigan State Police Post in West Branch, said the fire is being ruled as arson. He said evidence gathered at the scene is being analyzed by the MSP crime lab, and new leads gathered since the incident occurred are being investigated.
The Janczewskis believe it was someone responding to their outspokenness against several West Branch-Rose City teachers and a board member, who they said publicly supported Neal Erickson, a former WB-RC teacher who recently pleaded guilty to first-degree criminal sexual conduct against the Janczewski’s son. . . .
John Janczewski said he doesn’t understand why someone would do something like this to his family.
“We don’t deserve this,” he said in tears. “We’re not a bad family. We’ve done nothing but stand up for our son, the victim. They could have killed my whole family. Whoever’s done this has no remorse. They have no soul.”
John Janczewski said he and his wife do not plan to stop. They are currently circulating petitions for the recall of WB-RC board member Mike Eagan.
“Whoever’s done this, we’re not going to quit,” he said. “We’re not giving up. We’re going to continue to fight, until the end.”

School teachers who are insane enough to support a criminal pervert are insane enough to commit any crime themselves.

I guess the translation is something like this…

Don’t speak out about child sex offenders, and those that support them, or bad things will happen to you. 

Now, back to #FreeKate, where we see that the victims parent’s in this situation are under threat as well-by people that want to make it legal for adults to have sex with minors…

Here are some examples…

So, as you can see.  Documented facts are really libelous.  However, let’s see what team #FreeKate thinks is not libelous…

James and Laurie Smith wouldn’t give up. They were out to destroy my daughter, they feel like my daughter “made” their daughter gay. They are bigoted, religious [zealots] that see being gay as a sin and wrong, and they blame my daughter. Of course I see it 100% different. I don’t see or label these girls as gay. They are teenagers in high school experimenting with their sexuality, all teens do it in one form or another. They are teens, its healthy and normal. And even if their daughter is gay, who cares, she is still their daughter.

Unfortunately by the letter of the law, this girl has NO voice. Her parents can play the “victims” and ruin my daughters life. We have written letters through our attorneys trying to appeal to these people as parents, talk through it and come to some agreement or understanding but James and Laurie Smith refuse. These people’s delusional stand, their hate and bigotry is tearing our daughter apart.


As you can see, there is a lot of “tolerance” out there from the pro-sexual abuse crowd. That’s really just a small sampling. But, there is even some more, from Kaitlyn Hunt’s lawyer!

lt looks as though we have an alleged victim who doesn’t agree with how things are being handled by the State, her parents or their attorney. She has felt compelled to do what she thought was the only thing to save Kaitlyn from the State and her parents and that was to reach out and let Kaitlyn know this was not her idea or what she wants. I am totally cognizant that she is a minor.

Nonetheless it comes down to we still have a situation of two teenagers who were in school together and involved in a consensual relationship. Yes one that under the current law is a crime, but still consensual. It was brought to an abrupt end and the older “adult” teen faces up to thirty years in prison. The younger teen cannot comprehend the seriousness of the matter because it was something she consented to. Her opinion is ignored by the State, interrogated by the Sheriff’s Department, taken to a church that labels being gay a sin, has the Bible thrown at her, all of her things in her room boxed up and taken from her, is apparently hit by her parents, and clearly yelled at for lying by her father in the presence of Detective Shepherd at the school in a subsequent interview. How could she not be confused, scared and feel as though this is all her fault and no one is listening? She already tried to speak to Kaitlyn’s mother, Kelley, who shut her down. So she turns to the only person who could possible understand in her eyes and a person she clearly does not want to see hurt and that is Kaitlyn. She wants to try to save her and in doing so she just causes the walls to continue to tumble down.

All of this is to attack the victim in this case.  She was manipulated terribly by Kaitlyn Hunt.  And this is where there is another parallel between out two stories.  Let’s go back and see how Neal Erickson’s victim, also 14 at the time, reacted…

The parents of the victim in this case were outraged to see Erickson’s fellow teachers supporting this confessed criminal pervert, whose molestation of their son caused horrible problems:

The victim’s mother also spoke prior to sentencing, telling Erickson he violated her son and caused a rift in the family. She said the family appeared happy on the outside, but on the inside, the home was a “battle zone.”
“We couldn’t figure out why (the victim) hated us,” she said. “He went after his father. There were physical fights.” . . .
“You were his teacher,” she said. “You were his mentor. You were his friend. And you violated him.”
She added the victim kept the sexual encounters a secret and suffered because of it.
“He kept all of this a secret, and he went through emotional pains,” she said.

SJ Reidhead, a blogger who is also an abuse survivor, shared her insights in a very powerful post…

This is what Kate Hunt’s victim is looking forward to, for the next 30 or 40 years of her life.  She’s been separated from her parents, now probably doesn’t even trust them.  She won’t trust her old friends.  Friends at church will not be part of her life.

I know someone who dated a guy who was abusive.  His family thought they were above the law, so to speak.  His mother did everything she could to separate this person from her mother.  The damage has taken over thirty years to be repaired.  Their relationship has never been the same.  This is what the victim’s mother has to look forward to, if she is lucky.

Kate Hunt’s victim is at an extremely vulnerable age.  Being 14 and 15 is traumatizing enough, without being a young lesbian, and without being the victim of a psychopathic, narcissistic predator and her extremely vicious parents.  Dealing with life at her age is not easy.  You either hate or love yourself, both at the same time, almost bi-polar as normal.  You are up and you are down, all in the same minute.  When you sit, you hold a pillow in front of your body.  That’s normal.

The victim has been manipulated into thinking that Kate is probably the love of her life.  Her morals have been destroyed.  Her innocence is shattered.  Unless her parents take her far away from Florida, she’s never going to get a break.  The Hunts of this world are far too nasty and far too invasive.  If you  what Steve Hunt is doing to those who are writing about the story is bad, just wait until they continue to harass an innocent life and her family.

This is what the victim and her family are facing, and just like SJ Reidhead described, the Hunts and their supporters are heaping even more damage upon the victim, while calling it “love.”  The Hunts and their supporters claim that indecision or conflicted feelings on the part of the now 15 year-old  victim are a sign that Kaitlyn really shouldn’t be guilty, because they are “in love.”  Instead, these feelings are symptoms of the  very abuse that Kaitlyn Hunt inflicted on her young victim.  Add to that the media campaign to attack the victim and her parents, and you can see why the younger girl might be suffering trauma.  And, in their effort to save their “special snowflake” from the consequences of her actions, the Hunts are dead set on inflicting even more trauma.  It’s scorched Earth, and they could care less about what happens to their victims.

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#FreeKate Update: Steven Hunt, Supporters Want The Other McCain “Kicked off the Internet?”

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The Hunts must be using St. Joseph’s Chewable Crack.

They crossed a line yesterday, when this exchange was posted on Twitter…

Free_Kate_ThreatSo, they’re going to get R.S. McCain kicked off the internet?  Are they serious?  For one, you simply cannot “remove” someone from the internet. Secondly, R.S McCain, as well as the rest of the Conservative blogosphere, contributed to the downfall of then Congressman Anthony Weiner.  If it were not for the work of the late Andrew Breitbart, as well as R.S. McCain, the media would have lied Weiner out of his scandal.  Also, R.S. McCain, among others, helped lead the charge against Brett Kimberlin.  Did I mention that Brett Kimberlin is a convicted bomber?  McCain himself was forced to relocate his family due to threats made against them.  Needless to say, the blogosphere has faced some rather nasty and credible threats over the last few years, and R.S. McCain has been at the forefront of much of it.  Yes, this man helped “take down” a sitting Congressman, and repeatedly exposed the antics of a convicted bomber.

Which leads me to one question, what in the blue hell do you think you’re going to do that comes anywhere near a credible a threat as anything I just mentioned?  The entire #FreeKate movement has been based on one easily disproven lie after another.   You have been exposed at every turn, and frankly, it’s been easy.  We just look for your foot,because it can be usually found in your mouth.  And you now think that you can control the narrative?  Do you even know what that means?

Look, this is easy for me to say.  I’m a part time blogger.  I have a career that pays my bills.  But R.S. McCain relies on the income from his blog to feed his family.  So, when one of your minions suggests that that be taken out, well, people are going to take issue with you.

I’ve been following R.S. McCain for a several years now.  He’s a real journalist, has done it for a living-made a career out of it.  We he sniffs out a story, he pursues it relentlessly.   Now that you idiots have threatened his livelihood, he’s kicking it up a notch, or twenty.

Honest people hate a liar, and when the liar displays himself as a bully who thinks he can intimidate people into silence . . .

Well, how’s that plan working out for ya so far, Steve?

Your criminal pervert daughter is now in jail, charged with a new felony, the evidence of which the judge called “overwhelming.” Kaitlyn’s lawyer seems to be having a nervous breakdown, and people who have long been silent are now speaking out.

As bad as that was, Booking #2012-00001721 has now been exposed as having sought to deprive me of my professional livelihood, and therefore the dreaded War Oath of Clan Cameron has been sworn.

Some may be surprised (and I’m sure that Steven Hunt will be shocked to learn) that I had hitherto been merciful. But when I learned of Hunt’s purposes to destroy my livelihood and deprive my wife and children of my support, all claim to mercy expired, which is the metaphorical meaning of the Gaelic oath: Steven Hunt, by intending to destroy me, has invited destruction upon himself, and if anyone would claim to be my friend, I implore their assistance in this crisis.

When you try to take the livelihood of a person that has helped many, and respected by many more, you cross a line.  You rumbled-bumbled-stumbled over that line, and now you are faced with a terrible prospect. Unlike your #FreeKate minions, we won’t make threats to harm anyone.  We won’t lie or use harassment, but we will use what you side completely lacks-the truth.  We have megatons of it, and you hit the red button.  Enjoy your mushroom cloud.

We’re the sleeping giant, and there’s no one on your side as smart as Yamamoto.

Rant over.

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